Room Ceiling Height for 2 channel listening - is taller always better?


I am planning a custom 2 channel listening room. Current dimensions are 17’W x 23’L x 16’H with a symmetrically sloping ceiling. No windows. The room will be accommodating Paradigm Persona 9H speakers, but I’d like it to be flexible enough to be well suited for most other options (i.e. big horn speakers, tall Wilsons, etc)

Is 16 feet too tall? Is that violating a "golden rule" room ratio (I already know it is, but is that a big problem)? Bigger is generally better, but is a taller ceiling always better? Is this too much volume for a 2 channel listening room, even with large loudspeakers? I do plan on adding acoustic treatment throughout the room to handle reverb & reflections.

Other thoughts: I am planning on 2x6 studs and standard insulation+luan+5/8" drywall. I know that 3/4" plywood is considered better sounding at only 8x the cost of drywall. I know some would advocate for 2x8 or 2x10 or 2x12 studs, but that pretty much requires using expensive insulation (at least spray foam) or some fancy carbon diaphragmatic helmholtz solution that might cost as much or more as this room :) I know that structural rigidity is important to reduce resonances. I’m also not a billionaire and am trying to balance practicality with performance.

Flooring details: planning on sound deadening underlayment, carpet, and a throw rug on top. Should I do hardwood with a throw rug on top? If I do carpet, what acoustical carpet underlayment is recommended?

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Showing 5 responses by oldhvymec

To a point. Look at an Amphitheater.

Treat the room as much as you can stand it and go from there. 71Hz for an 8ft ceiling, 65Hz for 9ft ceiling, 56Hz for 10ft ceiling etc

As long as you know your room and that 50% of what you hear is because of the room, you're ahead of a lot of folks. Ground up. Now the sub (s), then the speakers.

If you had 20 foot vaulted ceilings untreated vs 8ft treated, you would last about 20 minutes.. DSP would overheat trying to fix that mess.. LOL

Regards

It still boils down to treating that room for that issue. There is no getting away from the 8, 9, or 10 foot problems unless you're a horn guy (which kind of helps) and room treatment. Above 12 feet, lower the ceiling. Open floor plans get some roller panels and or heavy floor to ceiling acoustic theater curtains. You can open or close to dampen more or less.

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 5 layers of drywall, and a layer of sheet steel. 

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WOW. Some dedicated people here. I thought Dry wall was sheetrock? I learn something everyday..

Outside wall, thermal mat, 30lb felt, 5.5 of insulation with fire blocks, sound board, 3.5" of air space (this is the actual sound proofing the air space), vapor barrier, sound board, 5/8" fire rock. Seal all the drilled holes with expanding foam. Top and bottom and drilled holes between studs they all need to be sealed. Some like to use construction adhesive on the floor to pinning and drywall to sound wall. I used screws and galvanized double dip sinkers ONLY. I drove every nail in this house by hand and never used green sinkers or guns including the roof and my kitchen cabinets.

From the drywall out has nothing to do with the drywall in. What is in the wall is for the neighbors or the people in the rest of the house.
When you taped and finished the room. The acoustic treatment NOW begins for your sound system. Funny how that is too. I've seen guys only sheet rock half way up with exposed insulation and a vapor barrier the other 1/2 and it sounds great. When you do all the walls it fails the clap test. Rock the ceiling and it sounds like an echo chamber with concrete or hardwood floors.

I like heavy floor to ceiling acoustic theater curtains.

I like suspended acoustic panels with lighting too. 8 X 8 of panels in front of the listening position at about 10 feet in height. 

Warehouse set ups are the most fun, 220/240 480 3 phase is nice too. The bass is a little tricky though. :-) Home made 14" sonotube bass traps. The guy must have had 30 of those things 12 foot tall with 1-4" holes. Panels for walls open back.

I gotta' find a warehouse, I would love a conservatory type environment if it wasn't so hard on the finish and the electronics.. No static issues.. LOL

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Thanks, all this newfangled stuff.. I like it..

Time to feed the chickens..

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