I agree, and as mentioned, Rouge may be a contendor to the CJ MV 60. I doubt if it is for the 60SE. The SE is a better match of transformers and tube than the original 60. There in no loss of any of the original MV 60 sonic qualities. The SE is a bit faster. The bass response is faster and deeper. The midrange is one shade less warm and sounds cleaner. The highs are extended an more open. If you have heard the 60, then you know what the SE could sound like. There are not a lot of the 60 SEs out there. You need to make the effort to hear this one. Compared to the Rouge the 60SE will sound more liquid with a better soundstage.
You have to take into consideration the rest of your system and the room interaction.
The Rouge is a nice amp and I could live with either, but the CJ MV 60 SE is a new winner.