rogue cronus integrated or red wine audio 30.2?


I am looking at these two amps right now but havent heard them. I currently have a cec tl51xr player and cec amp5300 class a ss integrated with audio physic step monitors(current model).
I am looking to get a warmer, lusher sound with an increase in soundstage size. I am looking to get feedback from those who have heard both of these amps.
thanks
Coleman
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I have a Rogue Audio Cronus driving my Vandersteen 1C's, and am absolutely in love with the way all my music sounds. Please see "my system" for my complete set-up. I have never heard the Red Wine stuff, but have read some good reviews. For me, the Rogue Cronus is a beautiful sounding amplifier.....Warm and musical, without being overly lush and "tubey." The Cronus (through my Vandy's) is extremely musical, accurate, non-fatiguing, and a pleasure to own. It's an incredibly well made amplifier, and it does what it's supposed to do.....it simply plays the music with astonishing grace and realism.....I think it's a fantastic amplifier, and a great "bang for the buck" component.
Good Luck, and Happy Listening !
I know RWA offers a 30-day money back policy. See if Rogue offers the same, and then try 'em both and keep the one that you prefer the sound of. I would think your spekaers are going to sound best with the 70.2s as i remember that they are 4-ohm and can use the extra power. I couldn't be happier with my RWA gear and it should at least be on your audition list.

Good luck,

Jeff
the cec is really rare, so its hard to find users on agon. its a special product, and would sound great with lots of speakers too. i'm convinced a slightly larger box (ie spendor 2/3, proac 2, atc, etc could do wonders(weight)...and you keep the cec. you are crrect about splitting hairs...sometimes 'different' is better.
thanks for the responses jaybo, it hard to find folks who are familiar with the stuff I have for some reason.
I was considering getting into some good tube gear and then going with some high efficiency speakers. I have heard the zucable druids or presence are pretty great but havent heard them.
Mark at rogue told me he heard that combo and it was a good match.
sometimes I feel like this hobby/obsession is just splitting hairs anyways:)
the cronus will sound a bit warmer(than the cec)..i have not compared side by side...its(the cronus) strikingly similar to a vintage marantz 7/8b combo .its pretty incredible. the steps(and other great small monitors) do loose the viseral slam as they come away from the wall, and in exchange you get more of a disappearing act.......as good as the steps are, i would play with another pair of speakers....perhaps a warmer british type such as proac or spendor.
definitely my speakers are very sensitive to setup. right now I have my system set up in our family/living room. when we casually listen the speakers have to be in between an armoire about 2 ft out from the wall.
for critical listening sessions I pull the steps out about 5 ft from the wall with them about 6 ft apart from each other and the listening chair 6 ft away.
I notice if I space the speakers about 8-9 ft apart then the sound becomes more spacious but the impactfulness(if that is a word) is lessened.
the near field thing sounds tight and full but a bit cramped in. these are the limitations of my room unforutately.

have you heard the cronus in relation to the cec?
your speakers and their positioning will make a bigger difference....you have a very nice system