Rock: well recorded bass...60s/70s


whatz up with bass on most rock recordings? is it that hard to get a decent bass sound? must be...as most bass sounds are either a)muddy or b)razor thin...however the bass I found on Santana Abraxas is outstanding though...very dimensional...with a reach out and touch quality...any other recordings that might have this quality?
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Lindisfarne/Jaybo,

How about tossing in Stackridge "Pinafore Days" and "Extravaganza".

Also Camel "Moonmadness", Caravan "Waterloo Lily", and McCartney "Band On the Run".

Also "Bridge Of Sighs" Robin Trower and a lot of early Savoy Brown and Ten Years After.
Not quite rock, but I'm listening to "Mix Up" by Patriok O'Hearn.

Whenever I do, it seems to always re-establish itself as a benchmark recording in my collection not only for bass, but mind blowing sound overall.

Oh and its from the 90's, but its just such a dam good recording that I just wanted to mention it in this thread anyway.
Electric bass was around for a good bit by the late 60s/70s.

Bass overall was recorded as well back then as later as a whole I think.

The difference is there were few recordings labeled "audiophile" or explicitly being marketed to audiophiles back then.

There were innovations that extended range and such on bass guitars in the 70s according to WikiPedia.

But is still plenty of good bass on older recordings. You do need a good record playback system or good CD remasters on a good system to fully appreciate it though.
Band On the Run - Paul McCartney and Wings

Awesome predominant bass throughout by McCartney.
"Still Life" Van Der Graaf Generator. Lots of low organ notes recorded well in an otherwise sparse mix on tunes like the title track, very rare for rock genre recordings.
Looks like Smacky's English leaves a bit to be desired, but I think I am able to decipher what he/she is saying.

Hugh Banton plays organ for Van Der Graaf Generator and apparently has interesting organ-related business interests building church organs these days as well.
BD,

I really enjoy your posts on popular music. What is your background? Sounds like maybe you are/were in the biz?
The psychedelic movement and associated interest in experiments in music in the mid to latter sixties was what initially spawned early examples of "progressive rock" as per King Crimson, the Moody Blues, etc. Cream was part of all that, but came at it like the Yardbirds and many other British rockers from an original strong base formulated on the blues. So while Cream may not be strictly considered "progressive rock" in their time, they no doubt participated on the road that led to the more purely "progressive" acts that soon followed.
Taht might help explain why I have never taken as strongly to Eric Clapton as many. I appreciate what he does and has done but his music seldom truly touches me.

My favorite Clapton album of late is the one he did with JJ Cale a few years back and I attribute that largely to JJ Cale.
About Hugh Banton of Van Der Graaf Generator from Wikipedia:

"In 1975 he began building a custom organ based on a Hammond but with added electronic oscillators to closely approximate a full pipe organ sound, with bass notes down to 16 Hz played through 24-inch subwoofers."

I am pretty sure this must be the organ used on "Still Life" as I mentioned in an earlier post. Its as clean, low and prominent as anything I have heard on even classical organ recordings. Probably things going on there at very low frequency that only the very best systems could register.