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Resale prices for Oppo Digital Universal Players

May I ask the forum to explain to me the disparity in the asking and bid prices for various preowned and some new Oppo Digital Universal Players for sale on Audiogon and on another well known resale site?  I'm seeing prices all over the scale.  I know they're no longer manufactured but the asking and bid prices don't seem to make any sense.  For example, there's a BDP-93 manufactured in 2011 with an asking price is $250.00, another one built in 2010 at $310.00 and another at $150.00 similar vintage.  There's a BDP-95 Blu-ray Universal Player for sale at $643.00.  There's a UDP-205 for $3,000.00 manufactured in 2017.  There's a BDP-83SE that's 10 years old with an asking price of $433.00. There are three new UDP-205s with asking prices from $3,699.00, $4,999.00 & $5,295.00 !!  The UDP-205s new were $1,299.00 when they became available.  There's a new UDP-203 built in 2016 at $820.00......new they were $549.00.  I own a BDP-103 from 2014 purchased brand new at $500.00 and it's still in excellent condition.  What is that worth should I decide to sell it here may I ask?         
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unsound
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FWIW, IMHO,
 @riaa_award_collectors_on_facebook  (that's a handful) :-),  post might have been a tad harsh.
@briano, 's response was truly funny. 
Briano, your comments regarding reviewers is not unique and we have read similar comments before. But, to be fair it's not as though all comments about salesmen have necessarily elevated their status either.  


unsound
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@briano, your certainly entitled to your opinions. It just might be more palatable if it was presented as such, rather than as factual declarations.
That professional reviewers have almost universally published just about complete opposite opinions touting it’s value is telling. That these units seem to be garnering the prices asked for them says even more.
As for the Thiel’s, they too garnered similar praise. What ever your issues with the tweeters might be misplaced. The Thiel’s were amongst the first with flat truly extended response. Many systems of that era with the then newly popular moving coil cartridges with their rising top end, and/or the fairly new digital sources of the time with their brick wall filters were geared to compensate for a rather different less neutral spectral response. There is more to a speaker than it’s tweeters.While specs don’t tell the whole story of a speakers sound, at the very least they offer objective comparison. I think a list of speakers with comparable complete performance specs any where near those Thiel’s will be very short indeed.
unsound
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The Oppo 205 features a very fine DAC chip, the same as used in top ranked DAC's costing many time the Oppo's price. The analog section features a decent sized toroidal transformer that would be comparable to many preamps, and a fully balanced output stage. The transport capabilities are amongst the most generous ever. Input and output options are plentiful for both 2 and multichannel. It is very compatible with many different contemporary and legacy formats. 
Garnering near universal praise from professional reviewers. It is a popular candidate for upgrading options. It punches way above it's weight class.

Is it snobbery or jealousy or what that provokes this contempt? I don't see how anyone can deny the value of these devices. 

Oh yeah, I think it sounds very good indeed. IMHO, better sound comes at a much higher price with more limitations.
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