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Replace tubes yearly?

I just watched a Paul McGowan video (PS Audio) about the wisdom of leaving your gear powered on all the time. I get that. He also said that vacuum tube gear is the exception and not to leave it on all the time. I get that too.

But he also mentioned that it didn’t make a huge difference since you probably should replace your tubes every year.

Is that true? I have an Audio Research LS-16 tube preamp from the late 90s or early 2000s. I don’t think the tubes have ever been changed. I’m not really a ’tube’ guy but this unit was given to me 6 or 8 years ago. As far as I know these tubes are original.

At one point I got curious about the different sound quality potential of different tubes and another Audiogon member lent me a set of tubes to try out. I could definitely tell a difference but did not think the new ones sounded better than the original ones. I mention this because at that time the original tubes were quite old and still sounded quite good. And still do.

So, bottom line is, is there any real need to replace tubes on a schedule of some sort. Maybe its different if it is an amp versus a pre-amp?

 

n80
n80 OP
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Thanks @oberoniaomnia 

I was glad that I was able to hear the difference between tubes but disappointed that I didn't find the pricier replacement ones to sound a lot better. I do not even remember which tube I tried and I don't know what is in there now but I think they are Electro-Harmonix 6922.

The LS-16 unfortunately has 4 tubes which would make rolling more expensive. The E-H 6922s are cheap.

The manual says the original tubes are 6922/E88CC tubes and should last 4000 hours. Since I was given this preamp after years of use I cannot even guess how many hours these have on them.

larryi
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So, a maker of solid state gear, and only solid state gear, states that if you buy tube gear, you have to make yearly tube replacement.  Does anyone think it is a scare tactic?  What if I say something completely unsupported like, “you shouldn’t worry about your PS Audio amp catching on fire, that is what insurance is for.”

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wturkey
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“So, a maker of solid state gear, and only solid state gear, states that if you buy tube gear, you have to make yearly tube replacement.”


The PS Audio BHK line has input signal tubes in the circuits. 
 

Preamps and amps. 

larryi
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That they have input tubes that require yearly replacement should be a good reason NOT to buy that gear.  Clearly, they don’t know how to implement tubes in their design.

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rar1
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Some folks rush to opine, some rush to smear, some rush to offer conspiracy theories, but no one rushes to go back to what Paul actually said.  I had watched the YouTube video before reading this post and what the OP reported is not quite what Paul said.

Go to the 56 second mark of the YouTube video and listen to what Paul actually said ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUGS2g4X4Ls&t=6s and judge for yourself.

The question being answered was on keeping your equipment on all the time or not.  Paul offered technical explanations as to why to keep equipment on all the time for SS, but not so for tubes.  No big surprise here.   Paul went on further to say that this should not represent that big a deal for tube owners, since tube replacement goes with owning tube equipment and he replaces his tubes every year.  

For all you know, Paul drives his equipment hard every year and needs to replace the tubes.  It may have just been conversational or an off the cuff remark.  Certainly did not come off as 'must follow' advice.

There you have it sports fans.  It's so easy to verify things like this, before going off.

Rich 

 

 

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