Had a Kirmuss...sold it before opening the box. I will not spray anything on my "expensive" record collection, especially something called "defactant". I saw it in action and was convinced and bought it. I did see the "white toothpaste" commonly discussed it left behind on an older record, as it was demonstrated at a local store with 2 free cleanings. I have an Okki Nokki in the process of selling and broken down and bought an Audiodesk and soooooooo glad I did.