Recommendations for Blu-ray Player


Guys, I'm so close to a solution for my 2-ch system. Looking for Blu-ray player recommendations thats fit the following:

  • Stream AmazonUHD, NAS, YouTube (and any other common audio/video streaming apps)
  • 24-bit/192kHz PCM audio quality
  • Ethernet and Wifi
  • HDMI and Coax outputs
  • Prefer: full-component width, front-panel display, on-screen menu system
I currently have a Sony BDP-S7200 that does everything above except no AmazonUHD app. And as easy as it would be to add it (Sony is an AmazonUHD partner) - Sony probably won't. Tidal option would be nice too. 

Thanks for your recommendations! When/if I find something, I'll report back.
mwatsme

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@fuzztone AmazonUHD = Amazon Prime Music Ultra High Definition it's kind of like Tidal Masters or whatever other HD streaming services are out there.

@bkeske think those devices have HDMI out only. For audio, I need it to be coax - the HDMI will connect to a TV for watching music videos (concerts, etc.) Also, I only have one coax input to bring in all the audio, so all content needs to be on one coax output, rules out the TV option.
@bkeske wow, that sounds like a big plate of spaghetti cabling. Think I'd have to see a drawing to comprehend it properly.
Yes, we too (like many others) cut the cable when Netflix went online - 2008'ish. So it's been... over a decade? How can that much time have passed - feeling old.

There is a full HT system in the basement (Denon AVR-X7400H, Xbox1S, 7.4.2 surround (if you count the GoldenEar Tritons built-in active bass as subs - which I do), all the 'surround' effect speakers are Martin Logan (SLM-XLs and in-ceilings). Honestly, I wouldn't mess with that system unless there was no other option.

The 'primary' 2-ch system consists of NAD C388 class D/H? (with BluOS2i and HDMI-2 modules added) run through ATI class A/B (for testing class D vs A/B) and various speakers turn-through the stable - it's a bit of a test-bed for music listening and system tweaking in a dedicated space upstairs.

This project has to do with the 'secondary' 2ch system built into the 'primary' 2ch system - for fun/discovery. Linkwitz LXmini speakers - which I have found to outperform practically everything, including Martin Logan electrostats (which I currently have for sale), and Tekton DI (w/factory upgrade) that I sold very recently. Problem with LXmini is, if you want to tweak them to your liking (like voice them to match Tektons - haha), you can't go the Pass Labs passive crossover route - you must use a 4-channel DSP. Problem with DSP (even the miniDSP4x10HD that I use) is the weak (by some standards) built-in DAC. So how to get the most from a DAC... use USB or coax inputs (optical is limited). The 4x10HD has one (1) coax out - but 2 are needed to produce 4 independent channels required by LXmini. Enter the miniDSP nanoDIGI (with 1 coax in and 4 coax outs and no DACs). Then all you need is two (or in my case 4 - gotta control that sub bass) stereo DACs.
I chose the economical yet highly rated and known to be warm (non-analytical) Topping E30 (x4). This secondary 'fun' system is to be connected like this:

Multi-disc streamer --coax(x1)--> miniDSP 4x10HD (for volume control and input switching) --coax(x1)--> miniDSP nanoDIGI (for active LXmini crossover) --coax(x4)--> Topping E30 (x4) --RCA(x4pr) --> ATI 6012 (12ch amp)
--Spkr(x4)--> LXmini speakers (play down to 35Hz)
--Spkr(x4 bridged = 220wX2)--> open-baffle subs (play below 35Hz)

Notice the small issue above with the miniDSP4x10HD - where it has only one coax input for digital sources - then it also has balanced and unbalanced inputs to be used for analog sources (but those are AD-converted at the input). With this system architecture, all digital sources will have only one DA conversion - performed simultaneously (with ease) by four (4) Topping E30's.

I just need to find that multi-disc streamer with AmazonUHD, coax and HDMI outputs. Even if it had just HDMI out, I could get-by using an audio extractor - but that would likely limit the signal quality, as those extractors are pretty cheap (looking).

@limomangus I did find one Marantz product that is close, the ND8006 is a CD-playing streamer with HEOS. My HT AVR is a Denon with HEOS, and it has Amazon UHD capability (think all HEOS does). ND8006 is missing video entirely, but it does have a coax input - where I could connect the coax output of the Sony Blu-ray player. It just seems like an expensive solution for not being complete. I find nothing in the Denon lineup that fits the bill.

@bkeske the smart TV idea might have merit - if it had a coax output that would pass-through audio from the Sony Blu-ray player HDMI connection - that search is beyond me... way too many choices when TV shopping.
Think I can find what I'm looking for if I relent on the coax output, and use the optical input to miniDSP4x10HD instead.

I don't remember precisely why SPDIF optical is not as good as SPDIF coax - I just remember reading several comments where AES and optical were shunned when compared to coax digital signal quality.

Is there an inherent digital limitation with optical, or is it a conversion/generation loss issue?