Recommend an amp + pre for ESL 57s and a new turntable (way out of my league)


Hi all, longtime lurker now starting my semi-serious venture into all of this. I was recently gifted a pair of Quad ESL 57s, a Well Tempered Labs Amadeus GTA turntable, and a Miyajima Labs Shilabe cartridge. I need a preamp and amplifier for the system on a budget of ~$1000 - $1500. I currently have an old Harman Kardon Stereo Festival (TA-230) receiver, which is just a cool piece of old, barely working, shits-n-gigs gear I used to drive some junky speakers with in college. It hasn't been plugged in in two years and even if its still works, I don't think it's a great match for my system. What would you recommend? I am most interested in listening to some old mono blues, jazz, and folk LPs I have, and I imagine most of the records I collect in the future will be similar (I know I have a stereo cart, which I've always understood to be fine for this?).

Some guiding questions:

- Seems like a favorite for the ESLs are a pair of heathkit UA-1s. Another that I'm seeing well recommended is the Dyna st35. Thoughts? Does it make sense to spend ~$700 - $1000 on a nice amp and get something more basic for the pre in the $400 range? (Rega fono??)

- Should I get a nicer preamp to match my cart and go with something more basic wrt amplification? Not sure what is good in the way of cheaper(?) amps to drive these speakers.

- In the event that I stretch my budget and wait a bit between buying one and the other (to save back up lol), would I get more out of a ~$1200 amp and the cheapest preamp that will work, or a ~$1200 pre and the cheapest amp that will work? What would the cheapest preamp and amp that "will work" be in the meantime? What would be in the $1200 range for each, respectively?

Thank you if you took the time to read this! I will be cleaning the dust off the Quads in the meantime.

arg6442

Showing 1 response by richardbrand

@pindac 

That article was an interesting snippet for me, especially as I am fettling a Garrard 301 turntable my dad gave me years ago.

The article contains a quote 

This is where we think the original designers, Peter Walker and D.T. Williamson, might have ended up as an ultimate statement product

I beg to differ.  Peter Walker knew the limitations of the original ESL, now known as the 57, and six years after its introduction started work on a completely new design, the ESL-63 which was finally released into production about 18 years later.  The ESL-63 has evolved through a few models up to the ESL-2912X released some weeks ago.  Not bad for a 60 year old design!

Major changes included: flat panels, not curved; integral dust covers; incipient ionization detection; protection from high input voltage; far kinder impedance characteristics; oriented for stereo not mono playback.

By far the biggest difference, and something that still differentiates from all other panel speakers, is the creation of a virtual point-source of sound about 1-ft behind the panel.  To visualise this, imagine a sound wave radiating from such a source.  The wave first intersects the centre of the panel, then expands outwards in a circular pattern.  Pater Walker's design creates eight concentric stators which approximate rings.  The signal to the outer rings is delayed according to the speed of sound to give the uncanny effect that the sound is coming from1-ft behind the speaker.

The result is that the sound is almost perfectly coherent, allowing the ear-brain to perceive a huge soundstage even in the presence of wall, ceiling and floor reflections.  By contrast, the ESL-57 has a very small sweet spot!