Quick question for the Cables Don't Make a Difference Crowd.


Quick question for the Cables Don't Make a Difference Crowd. 

Why don't you all just completely eliminate cables by buying an all in one with powered speakers using Wi-Fi or BT?  

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Showing 5 responses by unreceivedogma

@rodman99999

I am curious: did you actually watch Poppy’s two demonstrations? Because your response does not speak to them. 

@boxcarman

”….The cable unbelievers either don’t have audiophile ears or an unresolving system where wires are just wires….”

So says His Audio Excellency, sacred holder of the highest knowledge in all things audio.

Maybe His Audio Excellency speaks in jest?

Nevertheless. Let me say two things in refutation.

- as for the revealing system, see theaudioatticvinylsundays.com , go to the bottom of the about page. Note that I don’t even bother to mention cables in there, but if you must know, I use monster for speaker cable and something or other (sorry I’m not in front of my system right now) to connect the components that costs around $5-$7 a foot.

- as for the ears, why is it that during the listening sessions that I hold, that it is I that is always pointing out characteristics in the music that my audience don’t hear? It’s not because I have better - “audio quality” is how I think you put it - ears, it’s because people hear differently, their brains are wired differently, they are drawn to different sounds, they listen differently. Same thing with random ambient sound: I can be somewhere in a room or outdoors, I’ll hear something (in spite of my cervical stenosis-induced tinnitus) and say something about it, the other people with me are like wtf are you talking about and I say sssh listen, and then they hear it?

I will say that most people - thanks to social media - have forgotten how to sit still and listen. But that’s a related topic.

But they all are stunned - stunned - by the quality of sound from my system. Comments run from “never ever heard music sound like that before”, “better than live music”, “when I die, I’m going to ask … no, I’m going to tell God to send me back here.”

With cables that don’t cost U.S. $5M per foot.

I stopped believing in the Catholic Church at age 9.
I stopped believing in God at age 13.
Do you really think that I’m going to genuflect in The Church of Audio before The Altar of Cable Theology at age 70?

I’m not going there.

PS: I wonder if this offends Tammy and whomever in this crowd jerks her chain: let’s see how long this post lasts.

PPS:

Poppy Crum on Led Zeppelin and why people hear either what they want to hear or what they are directed to or told to hear, in Audio Myths, from 5:12 to 9:28:

https://youtu.be/BYTlN6wjcvQ?si=7qn-YZsXI2BzRH_s

The entire talk is worth listening to, especially JJ Johnson who speaks just before Poppy and is on point to my discussion.

Poppy Crum on Sensory perception and empathy

https://youtu.be/SYytiQmXNTc?si=yzIIePDQgicAGFOn


Poppy Crumb is chief audio engineer at Dolby.

@rockysantoro

If audiogon was the government, they would be banned from adopting your position. It’s called viewpoint based discrimination. It leads to dictatorship.

They are not the government, so they are free to ban posts and do as they please. They do in fact do so. Tammy has already removed many of mine, of which I will have something to say in the future.

in the meantime, conversely, what’s to prevent someone from adopting the position of saying that people who promote $5M cables should be banned, lest they continue to brainwash people into spending unnecessary amounts of money?

Censorship is never wise. (Allegedly) False speech is not fought by removing it. It’s fought with more speech. Then people decide.

@rodman99999

”Where have you been for the past 3+ years?”

Fighting three free speech cases against the government in court, perhaps?

Now, I didn’t waste my time going through all of your links. Anything that starts out by citing the WSJ (which I have nevertheless subscribed to for 45 years) opinion page on speech is not very credible.

Trust me on this one: I know far more about the 1st Amendment, Public Forum Doctrine etc than you likely ever will.

I got Nino Scalia to agree with me. Twice. Once on the Supremes, the other time at the DC circuit with Bork and Start (I hit the trifecta).

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1994/93-1525

Let’s see how long it takes for Tammy to pull this down.