You think I will still need the 6" absorption panels even if I use the Stillpoints Aperture’s?
Here is what Stillpoints Aperture Panels claim:
"The Stillpoints Aperture is the only acoustical product that will give you both absorption and diffusion at the first reflection points of a system. And you want both!"
- The Aperture’s unique trapping system captures an area of waveform much broader than its small surface area would suggest.
- The Aperture can be used to trap waveforms either facing the wall or, facing away from the wall.
- The Aperture effectively increases soundstage width and depth. This is especially true for smaller rooms. (See the Michael Fremer review in Stereophile, Feb 2016.)
- The Aperture will increase the dimensional perspective of the image structure.
- The Aperture focuses music and voice without room boundary.
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Thank you that is very good advice.
You are right on. I like the sound I have but am concerned that when I remove the Cd's/rack the sound may change.
What about Stillpoints Aperture ll's. I already have 6 in the room, would a couple more of them behind me work well?
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It is a amazing that turning the ASC tube traps how it can affect the center image.
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emergingsoul.
Thank you, you are too kind.
BTW, my Westie is named Westy. He really loves to lay between the speakers in the sweet spot.
The cd’s are arranged irregularly by the artist. Some groupings have many cd’s, some not so many and there are spaces between artists.
I have the speakers about a 1/3 out from the wall and I sit about 1/3 back from the speakers and then the chair is also 1/3 back from the rear wall. Although, that was mostly just a starting point until I dialed everything in.
This whole thought occurred to me because I really don’t listen to the cd’s anymore. so, I was wondering what to do with that wall if I removed them. I appreciate the very good suggestions that have been made by the community.
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Thanks. Who is Art Noxon’s ?
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I do have 4- 20" ASC tube traps in the corners. I also have 7 Stillpoint Aperture 2's.
So, do I really need to absorb the bass frequencies further?
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Thank you, I will check out those sites.
It sounds like GIK wants me to get 6 of the Alpha 6's. I'm not sure if $1500 would better the sound that I have now with the cd rack.
I may try some convoluted foam I have behind me first just to see if absorption is where I wanna go.
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Thanks,
I'm not sure how many of the Alpha 6a's would need to be acquired. 3 of them with shipping is $763.
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Got a reply from GIK. I need more info.
"OK, yeah that's a fair amount of space to work with. It will really come down to tolerance of thick panels and of course budget. If you can fill the entire wall with sound blocks that will work very well but that's a bit of a space commitment.
If not getting Alpha 6As for that wall will help quite a bit still, and take up less space.
We can also mix things up a bit, using Range Limited bass traps low near the floor and high near the ceiling, with the Diffusors (Alphas or others) in the middle at ear level."
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Christian5s4,
How many of the GIK 6A Alpha diffusor/absorbers did you use?
I haven’t heard back from GIK yet, but Stillpoint’s says behind the listener treatment is not really necessary.
joenies,
BTW, the cd rack has many spots where there are few/none cd’s which creates alot of voids etc., in a random manner.
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Well, I submitted the form to GIK. Before being able to submit the form, I must say the constant need for showing that I am not a robot is annoying. Especially so for the GIK website. Why is that necessary?
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Also, the ceiling in the room has acoustic tiling glued and stapled over the drywall and there is 6" insulation in the jousts. There is no slap echo at the back of the room.
I was ok with the sound with the Cd’s/rack combo, just thinking of removing it now that I don’t play the CD’s.
I have already in the room Stillpoint Aperture 2’s at the 1st and 2nd and center points, perhaps adding a couple more of these in the back? I also will check out the GIK and see what suggestions that adds.
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kota1.
I will check out that video soon. Thanks for sharing it.
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Wow! Some very good information.
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For some reason I thought one end of the room (behind the speakers) should be the "dead zone" and the other end (behind the listener) should be the "live zone".
No credence to that notion?
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So, you think absorbing material should be used?
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So you also went with sound absorbing material?
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Thanks for the help.
The DIY cd rack at the back wall (behind me) starts at about 4 foot high and does go to about a foot from the top of the ceiling. It covers the width of the room. The rack does have many open spaces between the cd's. Again, I thought it would help with "scatter affect." But I’m not sure where I got that idea, and I did need a place for the CD’s.
These days I don’t play CD’s and I thought about taking down the racks. The Gika Acoustics or the T’fusor, looks to be an interesting option. Should they be placed in the center of the rear wall?
BTW, the rear wall is about 17 wide and 8 feet high.
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I am sitting about 1/3 from the rear wall, or about 8 feet.
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