Question about Shunyata Power Conditioners


Hi, I recently purchased a couple of cables from Shunyata. First one is the Venom-X speaker cable, and the other is the Venom-X power cable. These are my first Shunyata products, and I am very impressed with them.

I’ve always been a fan of Kimber Kable, Most of my IC are Kimber Select & Hero lines, and I was using a pair of Kimber 12TC speaker cables, before replacing them with the Shunyata. I was actually comparing the Shunyata Venom-X to a pair of Kimber Bifocal XL, which is $1000 more expensive, and I like the Shunyata better especially in the bass department. The Shunyata really adds a nice slam and punchiness to the bass, I returned the Bifocal and kept the Shunyata.

Anyway I’m now thinking about adding a power conditioner from Shunyata. I’m considering either the Hydra Delta D6 or their reference line Denali 6000/s V2.

Has anyone had experience with either or both of these 2 conditioners, and be able to provide some feedbacks on their performance. The Denali is almost twice as expensive as the Hydra Delta, so I want to make sure I’m spending my hard earned dollars wisely.

Also FYI, I have not had heard much improvement of sound when it comes to power cables or conditioners. I currently own a Furman Elite 15i, and mostly Pangea power cables. The Pangea are very affordable comparing to many other brands of power cables. That’s one of the reasons why I purchased them. Mostly for my peace of mind. But I don’t think I’ve ever heard much improvement over stock cables. The Forman Elite is also reasonably priced with a lot of outlets.

I always think that I must have very decent power source in my home already, and therefore I don’t hear much improvement. I’m not a skeptic when it comes to power cables and conditioners, I just simply don’t have many positive experiences with them.

One more thing I want to mention is that I do my own noise test by cranking up my volume control on my preamp to max, with my digital source turned on but not playing anything (of course).   I put my ear right again my speakers and hardly hear any hum or noise at all.   So I concluded that I don't have any noise issue in my system.  This is hardly a scientific experiment and please tell me if this is a stupid test. 😀

Anyway, any comments and shared experiences will be appreciated. Thanks for reading!

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Thanks for all the comments so far. I don’t dislike my Furman Elite, it seems to just do its job and get out of the way. I am just very curious if higher end conditioners combined with higher end power cords will make an audible improvement to my system. All comments I read so far about Shunyata’s power products are mostly positive. So I am assuming and hoping the Shunyata Hydra Delta or Denali will perform noticeably better than my Furman.

There’s currently a pretty good discount on the Hydra Delta D6, and that’s what got me thinking about upgrading my entire power system. My head is telling me to go for the Hydra at a lower price point, but my heart is telling me to go for the higher end Denali. What would you do if you were me? 😀  The Everest is a bit over my budget, plus it only comes in a tower form factor which doesn’t work for me.

Hey @vonhelmholtz, may I ask you which Shunyata cable are you using for your Everest conditioner? I am currently thinking to pair the Hydra with the Alpha XC power cord, and the Sigma XC for the Denali, if I decide to go for either one of these conditioners. Thanks!

Hey @overthemoon, the Kimber Bifocal is a very nice cable over the 12TC. It has much better and spacious sound stage and deeper bass. One thing I don’t like about it are the WBT connectors. I went for the banana version and it’s a real pain to insert or remove from the connectors in my amp and my speakers. It beats the Venom-X on the sound stage, but a bit less articulated in the bass. I also got a pretty good open box discount on the Venom-X from Music Direct. It came out to be about $1500 cheaper than the Bifocal. so It was hard to resist on the price.

Hi @brandonhifi,  I agree with your suggestions.  I've gone through some upgrades on my IC last year, and I'm fairly happy with where I am at now with IC.   I also just upgraded my speaker cable to Shunyata Venom-X as mentioned in my post.  Actually the Venom-X was an accidental find because I had started auditioning the Kimber Bifocal XL, and saw an open box discount of the Venom-X at Music Direct.  So I just decided to give it a try.   

To be honest, I was surprised by the SQ of the Venom-X SC.  I know Shunyata was very well regarded in the audiophile communities for their power line products, but I hardly read anything about their speaker cables.

Anyway, the purchase of the Shunyata SC has led me to consider upgrading my power cables and conditioners.

Hi @vonhelmholtz, actually I did start an email exchange with Richard at Shunyata.  He's a great guy to deal with.  But I started this thread because I want to seek some real world experience from members in this forum, especially those who had experience with both the Hydra Delta and Denali conditioners.

Hey @markiew, thanks for your recommendation of Puritan. Their products look interesting. I’ll check it out!

and thanks @tatyana69 for your recommendation on DR acoustics.  I'll check that out as well.

Hey @photon46, thanks for a very well written response.  I agree with what you're saying.  That's why this hobby can drive you crazy through this endless search for the perfect sound.  😀

I've been meaning to update my profile with my equipments, but just been too lazy to do so.  I'm sure I'll get to that one day. 

Cheers!

@curiousjim,  if you read my original post, I kind of have the same thinking as you. I always thought that the power source of my home is pretty good.  That led me to believe that is why I don't get the kind of sound improvement of changing power cords or conditioner.   So long story short, I simply want to explore whether higher end power cords and conditioner will improve my overall SQ.

@willgolf,  I've never heard of Inakustic, but will check it out.  Thanks!

Wow! Thanks so much @j-wall for sharing your experience! You have just pushed me closer to going for the Denali V2.

Sounds like you are happy with pairing it with the Alpha XC? I was originally thinking to pair it with the Sigma XC if I were to go with the Denali, and pair the Hydra Delta D6 with Alpha XC if I were to go with the Hydra. But if the Alpha XC is good enough for the Denali, then I’ll save myself $1K.

Actually another question if you don’t mind. Have you migrated all of your other cables for your components to Shunyata? and if so, do you hear improvements in SQ for your components?

Thanks!

Thanks @craig,  I'm thinking the same thing if I were to upgrade my power cords to a better conditioner (i.e. Denali).  I think I probably going to start with my power amp first (Parasound JC5), and then follow by my preamp (Cary SLP-05), and finally my digital and analog sources.

Interesting advice on the grounding plugs.  I know nothing about grounding, but good to know that Denali has a good grounding system.  I need to read up on grounding in general.

Thanks @guakus for sharing your experience.  What really interests me about Shunyata power products is that I don't think I've read any negative comments at all.   I'm sure there might be some negative reviews out there, but I have not seen one yet.

Wow! thanks @craig for sharing your experience! Another incredible story!

Everest + Omega is out of my reach for my budget. Also I don’t really have enough space to accommodate the tower form factor. I better start thinking about how big a dent is going to make to my retirement savings if I’m gonna go with the Denali + converting all my components’ power cables. 😀

Cheers!

Thanks @duckworp for sharing your experience.   Interesting to hear that Denali smoothed the sound but reduced detail substantially.  That's not good!!

It might work out for me, because I have tinnitus and very sensitive to high frequency sound.  I try very hard to make sure every component (including cables) doesn't sound bright or harsh at the higher end.

Thanks!

Thanks @coppy777,  seems like the consensus is the Denali is indeed a better conditioner than the Hydra. 

thanks @kmmd, i think i’m leaning towards the Denali 6000 v2,  but not ready to pull the trigger yet.  Cheers!