Germanboxers, The Cinelli is mid 60's and is Columbus SL. I also have a mid 80's Biemmezetta Chronostar (also SL) with the shortened chain stays, so the seat tube is dished in to allow for tire clearance. The frame is fully chromed with translucent paint on the three main tubes, which they named Chromolova Orange, pretty flashy:) I also have a un-built Alan Carbonio 7 frameset with forks.