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Question About DACs

My CDP runs an internal Burr-Brown 24-bit DAC, and a Crystal Semiconductor CS8420 sample-rate converter chip that upsamples the CD data to 96kHz. It’s an older CDP obviously, but are the newer external multibit DACs, such as the Schiit Gumby and Bitfrost, far superior to what I have now? Or, would any improvement be a slight one? Thanks.

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cleeds
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mzkmxcv
... newer chips are much better. A state of the art DAC from 10yr ago is similar to a $100 DAC from Topping/Schiit/etc.
Have you proved this assertion with the same sort of double-blind testing protocols that you insist others must conduct to substantiate their claims?
... heard everything from the Vanatoo One Encrores to the KEF Blade 2’s, whatever Wilson model was there, and the Von Schweiker VR-55’s. And from decently priced amps to >100W Class-A monoblocks. The differences are not exponential.
Have you proved this assertion with the same sort of double-blind testing protocols that you insist others must conduct to substantiate their claims?

In any event, differences need not be " exponential" to be significant. The value of any difference is subjective.
cleeds
6,105 posts
 
mzkmxcv

I haven’t seen anything saying the reward isn’t real. If not, I’ll put up $10K of my own money under similar parameters.
You obviously haven’t been paying attention. Previous "offers" such as yours have been shown to be fraudulent and have been deleted by the moderators. I’m sure your "offer" will be no exception.
cleeds
6,105 posts
 
mzkmxcv
A DAC sounding “boring” is a non-descript term, as useless as “lacking rhythm”.  
 
Some descriptions that can be used ...
Pardon me, but everyone here is free to use whatever language they like to describe what they hear, within the forum's terms of use, of course.  No one is bound to use the terms you prefer.
There is $10,000 reward if you can tell two amps apart ...
That kind of canard has been exposed here many times. There is no such reward.

cleeds
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joshfilm
Feel free to stick to your guns on this, but the alternative is to go and listen to a few of the products that are being highlighted...
This makes such common sense that it’s difficult to understand why anyone wouldn’t follow it. But we have users such as mzkmxcv who believe:
Measurements are 100% accurate in predicting sound quality in DACs
Listening is superfluous to such contributors - it apparently just doesn’t interest them. And - as I’ve noted before - their insistence that others conduct blind tests is odd given their refusal to conduct their own, or participate in that of others.
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