Proceed CDD Transport


How does the Proceed CDD Transport compare to the Stello CDT-200 and/or the Sonic Frontiers SFT-1?
poetcatullus
I'd say so since the the jitter is said to be around 2 pico seconds. If it weren't for the CEC TL1-X and Oracle I have now, I'd still have the SF.
My DAC is a Muse 296 with which I am very happy indeed. And based on what has been said thus far; I should be happier driving my DAC with the SFT-1 rather than the Proceed CDD. Yes?
To add more confusion, SF's CDP was better than the SFT-1 matched with thier top dac(a $6k+ combo). What are you using for a dac?
P.S.: I currently own both an SFT-1 and a Stello CDT-200. I consider the Stello to be a "copy" of the SFT-1. I have a slight preference for the sound of the Stello over the SFT-1. I am happy to have one of each and may not benefit by adding the Proceed CDD to my collection. Thanks again!
Very interesting, Tabl10s! So even though the Proceed CDD is supposed to be similar to the ML31, the ML31 sounds better than the SFT-1, yet the SFT-1 sounds better than the Proceed CDD? Am I understandind this correctly? Thank you!
The SFT-1 and the CDD both arrived around the same time(a local store carried both lines). I think the SF was highly regarded over the Proceed as was the ML 31 over the SFT-1. I'd choose the SFT-1 again as I did seven years ago.
PROCEED PMDT is really a great transport. All late model used Philips tranport CDM 12 ? are inferior, because Philips cheapened their transport.
Poetcatullus, I cannot answer your exact question as I have no experience with the Sonic Frontiers or Stello units. I have used a Proceed CDD in my system since 2005 with wonderful results. My inspections show it to be a very well constructed transport.
According to Madrigal literature it uses a suspended Phillips CDM 12i industrial transport (all metal) and uses a proprietary anti jitter circuit. The jitter circuit (crystal oscillator) is placed just prior to the digital out, rather than within the transport as in most transports, decreasing jitter relative to those units. The Madrigal proprietary control software for the transport runs on a combination of an Analog Devices DSP chip and XIlinx field programmable device (FDP), the DSP chip is also used to process audio data (timecode, track, index info). Once this data has been read, its presence in the output data potentially increases jitter, with the Madrigal system this data is stripped from the output.
Madrigal also mentions the CDD is optimized for AES/EBU output, my listening sessions with perhaps 15 different digital cables (both RCA and AES/EBU) confirm this.
I am curious as to how the CDD differs from the Mark Levinson No. 37, I can't find anything in the literature that points to differences other than cosmetic, perhaps some functional. I would love to open up a ML No. 37 and examine them side by side, perhaps there is something different in the power supply or such. Anybody out there compare the two side by side? I've seen CDDs go as low as $600 vs. around $1800 for the ML unit, depending on the extent of differences, if any, the Proceed seeems like a damn good deal to me.
In the meantime, I don't think you can go wrong with the Proceed CDD as long as you can be sure about functional issues. I've heard of some transport issues (failing to read discs) with both the Proceed and ML units. My transport was replaced with latest software updates just prior to my purchase back in 05.
I have heard that the Proceed CDD has a proprietary jitter-reduction (elimination?) circuit. The Sonic Frontiers and Stello also claim very low jitter. Whether it makes a difference how the jitter is lowered, I do not know. Perhaps some other Audiogoners can help with this?