pro-ject cd box rs2 vs jays audio cd2 mk3


I have been following a lot of posts here , but I have not read of any comparisons as of the 2 transports . I am on the fence about the 2 transports as it does not seem that there is to many choices in that price range. I can purchase both transports for about the same price . any body compare them yet or have any other thoughts . thanks
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These are all very good linear power supplies. Some will sound better paired with certain components compared to others. There are just multiple factors/variables that make this so. It is impossible to declare one LPS superior to all the others based upon individual scenarios.

Charles

@robshaw

I think that from your narrowed down list of the 3 CD transports you’d have been very satisfied. No dog in this trio. Pro-Ject’s design mission for their “Box” components is small/compact and space saving. Made from aluminum and carbon fiber it’s diminutive yet a dense feel to it.

I don’t believe it is by accident that several very upscale/expensive CD transport manufacturers have chosen to utilize the Stream Unlimited Pro-8 unit/Blue Tiger servo pairing.

The RS2T is probably 1/5 the weight of my former P.S. Audio PWT but simply out performs it across the board. So although light in weight they have obviously been successful in addressing vibration issues that can affect spinning CD drive units. I’ve enjoyed my RS2T immensely as the sound quality is superb.

Best wishes,

Charles

@nonoise 

I hope someone took notice. 👍

Hope springs eternal 😊

Good rationale for why Technics should follow suit  but I seriously doubt that They would. Seems large companies like this with an ample engineering department are motivated to develop via in house resources more often than not.  It is not at all surprising that the higher end boutique companies are more aggressive in utilizing latest technology from a boutique  (But highly capable) developer like Stream Unlimited. 

@ejlif 

I also  use the Pro-ject SPDIF output to my DAC via a 1 meter RCA digital cable (High Fidelity CT!-1 Ultimate) and the sound is truly splendid. 

Charles 

I would buy their transport in a heartbeat if they would convert over to the Stream Unlimited CD Pro 8. They responded that no such plans were in the making. Too bad😟

Agree! CD Pro 8 drive system puts CD playback in an entirely different performance tier. Other brands that also have moved to this Stream Unlimited drive system are more expensive (Gryphon, Acustic Arts Audio and Aqua Hifi) transports/CD players (And limited to their very top models).  Pro-Ject puts this latest technology within reach for many listeners.

 

 

@erictal4075 

Yes it seems that @jaymark acquired a defective unit, unfortunately it happens. My Pro Ject RS2T has been flawless in operation and is silent while in use. Best quality it possesses is superb Redbook CD playback. The designers/engineers sure knew what they were doing with this latest Stream Unlimited CD Pro 8/Blue Tiger servo  mechanism. Magnificent sound quality.

Charles

That's interesting.  Mine is absolutely silent even if standing right over it while it's playing.

Charles 

@ejlif ,

With the stock wall wart SMPS the RS2T still  has a larger  (More authoritative dynamics and bass weight/impact) and  more open sound than my excellent P.S.Audio PWT which is 25 pounds and has an internal linear power supply.

Yet via unanimous owner feedback I'm told it sounds noticeably better with an external power supply in place of the wall wart. I have ordered the Fidelizer Nikola 2 LPS. I know this Pro-Ject transport feeding your Rossini DAC is heavenly 😊.

Charles 

BTW I’m still using the included wall wart SMPS as I express my listening impressions. By all indications a linear power supply takes sound quality even further upward. I will soon find out 😊.

Charles 

 

“I got the RS2 transport and wow it's fantastic”

Agree!😊 Its sound quality is the strength of this CD transport. I thought it would work in excellent fashion with your dCS Rossini and happy to know that this is the case. 

I know that there are some who have some concerns with its small package form and ergonomics (I understand that and nothing with suit everyone all of the time). However one will obtain superb sound (As you’ve discovered) for a price within reach for many. 

I. have had mine for a few weeks and it’s been very difficult to bring listening sessions to an end for the night. This transport allows a deep musical-emotionally involving experience. For me a splendid combination of a very organic presentation with exceptional resolution and nuanced clarity.

Charles
 

 

 

@ejlif,

congratulations! I believe this transport will pair brilliantly with your Rossini DAC.I will be ordering very soon the Fidelizer Nikola Signature LPS to pair with my CD BOX RS2 transport. If you have the time or desire to do so, I look forward to reading your listening impressions.

@jaymark, 

Light years better with the LPS. That dramatic of a difference?

Charles 

@ejlif, 

The latest Rossini transport is a hefty OEM tray mechanism built by Denon that plays both CD and SACD. The Pro-Ject CD BOX RS2 is top loader CD (No SACD but plays the hybrid CD layer) utilizes the Stream Unlimited CD Pro-8 drive.

The Rossini has an internal chassis linear power supply.  The Pro-Ject transport has a supplied wall wart and a  linear power supply is optional. The Pro-Ject even with an optional linear power supply is much less costly. Keep in mind despite the lower cost it was selected as the CD drive mechanism for top model Gryphon Ethos player and Accustic Arts Drive II transport.

How important is SACD playing capability to you?  Otherwise in  terms of Redbook CD I just can't see either as less than excellent solutions. You're in a no lose situation in my opinion. 

Charles 

 

 

Teajay did compare the LTA LPS and Pro-Ject LPS and he did prefer the LTA (Linear Tube audio). Another well regarded LPS is the Fidelizer Nikola Signature. Generally speaking LPS are usually considered a clear upgrade to SMPS wall warts. It's impressive the Pro-Ject is praised for superb sound quality even with the stock wall wart power supply. 
Charles 
@jaymark, 
Are your findings done with the standard Pro-Ject  wall wart SMPS or with the optional linear power supply?
Charles 
@jaymark,
That seems the  consistent conclusion from listeners who've actually have compared both. Jay's is "very" good sounding but Pro-Ject is better yet. 
Charles 
The New P.S. Audio PST is capable of providing SACD playback via its I2s connection. I believe that there are 4 different iterations of I2S available in the marketplace. So the DAC would have to be compatible with the P.S.Audio PST I2s approach. Too bad a standard universal I2s wasn't established. 

Agree that the potential for more things to fail or breakdown exist as a device/component becomes more complicated. Sometimes the choice is Swiss knife/versatility versus emphasis on narrow focused purpose function/mission with less flexibility. Generally I gravitate toward the latter. I do appreciate the plethora of excellent quality choices in High End audio.
Charles
I suspect SACD although nice to have is relevant only for a modest percentage of users. It seems the vast majority would make Redbook CD playback sound quality the major priority. I don’t believe there’s a dog in this trio. But the high praise, satisfaction and consistent feedback from Pro-Ject owners is noteworthy.
The use of the very latest CD Pro-8 Stream Unlimited drive units and attention paid to vibration control /chassis rigidity seems to be something special and well beyond the ordinary.
Charles
@bigkidz has a very impressive stable of highly regarded CD transports. That he finds the Pro-Ject CD transport better sounding is quite a  testament. 
Charles 
@unsound noted,
’He’s been doing that back when he posted under a different name. Something like robberjerman’.

Yep, It sure seems like the same guy with the same tiresome rants.

@jriggy
I suspect many would agree with your comment.
Charles