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When exposed to audio opinion bullying from a psuedo technical gasbag like Bo, who bases his seemingly inexorable conclusions on "16 years of selling things," it's important to not lose sight of the actual realities of great hifi sound...i.e. well designed gear set up with care. Digital room correction works as advertised to alter (compress) room bass modes, and will apply the sonic opinions of the designers on you with aplomb. You may really like the sound of this stuff! However, as a professional musician, live sound engineer, and distractingly handsome classic motorcycle aficianado, I've been doing an informal survey of serious musicians and audio freaks I work with (who don't sell gear) regarding their opinions on Room Correction Gizmos...guess what? Among those who seem to care about home audio enough to have an opinion, there is near universal agreement that "less is more." I often get the "why stick another box of wires in the signal path if your rig already sounds great?" response from nearly all these guys. The answer from "too lazy to spellcheck anything" Bo and others of the "black background, driver speed, tempo pace...etc., etc." faux technical gibberish school is that, simply, your rig BLOWS CHUNKS and can't sound great unless you embrace a specific and absolute path of zero wiggle room silliness. I say you can "Go with Bo" or just set up the gear, sit back, and enjoy some music...oh, and see more live stuff as I need the money for my motorcycle problem.

Spoken with the zest of the classically insecure. "The best sound possible" is not an absolute, it is simply an opinion. Subs driven to upper mids and squashed by digital EQ is rarely optimal, realistic, or recommended, and since this is the approach you've described as producing "realistic" results, I can only assume you need to get out more. Open up that closed little brain...feel the warm breeze of real music...there ya go...all better...

Short cable issues, woofer "speed" myths, bizarre testing claims, and yet another suggestion of what people "should" listen to based on unsubstantiated nonesense. It just doesn't get any better around here.

To expand on what Macrojack says, and because I enjoy addressing this dude: Bo1972 is apparently unable to comprehend the message from others that his absolutist stance on exactly what comprises good sound is annoying and makes him seem like a fool, regardless of his extreme sincerity. If you look at how he claims to create this fabulous sound...based around powered woofers allowed up into lower midrange territory only to be electronically tamed by an Audyssey Pro system, you would note that this is not only unconventional, but considered by many with far more experience as musicians and hifi freaks to be an arguably ass backwards method for obtaining optimal tonal purity. It still might sound great to somebody and that fact nobody contests, but this hobby isn't a contest, it's just supposed to be fun, and establishing dialog with other tone freaks should include some give and take regarding the opinions around here (unless one disagrees with ME, in which case you're a DICK). Some respect is due for the amazing knowledge base available from those with a reasoned approach and both technical knowledge and listening skills gained from a vast amount of experience, and that respect is utterly lacking from Bo1972's rants about anything, thus denying him any modicum of credibility. I hope that his persona is a parody created by a comedic writer who sticks this stuff in here just to mess with us...now THAT would be great...

I hope Bo1972 never stops...seriously, it's like some demented poetry...ahem: "When an audio system plays in full 3D you see a much bigger smile on the faces of people. To create a higher level of blacks makes instruments and voices come alive. Creating a better articulation of voices let people hear new information of the music they thought they knew well. Creating more flavors in the overwhole sound give instruments the sound they own in real." It just doesn't get any better than that.

This is the 37th time he's picked on my REL sub...my poor little REL...it just sits there trying to do its thing...trying SO hard...*sniff*...as a treat for it tonight I'm going to tighten its nuts.

Bo might be the Andy Kaufman of Audiogon.

I have RCF drivers in Mackie and EAW (they own Mackie or Mackie owns them...something) speakers, and Yorkville is one of the best pro audio companies out there.

I have a strong reaction to what I consider bullcrap which has little or nothing to do with actual sound, and certain personality types who are either instantly dismissive of others or overuse nonesensical descriptive terms ("speed", "black backgrounds", "PRAT", etc.) designed as pretentious psuedo speak we're all supposed to accept...but not all of us do. Bo1972 will never critically read any other posts to the extent that he can clearly comment on them, and has no clue who Andy Kaufman is. That in itself is kind of funny...google it...really...

Diatribalist. I think that's the apt term here...

The true value of this thread is that it allows Bo1972 to post amazing things about which others can derive pleasure from responding to. One needs to see beyond the vacuity of the original post to appreciate the art of what should now be referred to as "Bosponse" or "Boalog." If you can't think of well reasoned criticism of Bo1972, you're missing an opportunity for some fun, albeit el redundo amundo. Otherwise, join in, and realize the conversational equivalent of hitting a tennis ball against a wall...it just comes back no matter what.