Preamp SS to match class D amp


I have been reading quite a lot and unfortunately I cannot find a post who can guide me into a match between SS pre amp and amp class D. Going through forums people ask advices only on tube pre amp to combine class D amp probably for the fact of the colorations of tube and some sterile class d amp they own. I recently bought some Belcanto ref600m as I got rid of my Mcintosh 8900 who sounded too 80s hifi and I wonder if someone can suggest a good pre amp to link. I would like to have something well build, dual mono if there are still, with balanced input and output. Considering that I listen mainly vinyl, analogic circuit I am thinking. Question as well, is there any preamp with streamer and Dac or these are only digital? As I would like to have a Dac as well to attach and I am wondering if make sense to have another extra gear

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beppep

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Thanks but has just one analog input in xlr I need two as I will add a phono pre amp, then wich Dac chip is used? I guess has no streamer, probably is better to take things separately. Does any one tried a SS preamp with class D?
I know AVM as I live nearby the Germany, probably the new products are better but previous ones not such big audiophile reputation at least in Europe and you have to add modules in the pasts taking up the price. Wondering if Pass or Ayres would fit just the analog part on a decent way, they have a lot of analog input.
@georgehifi very good sense of observation:) and well appreciated advice.indeed I have Harbeth 40.1 and now a Belcanto to match. I read quite a lot on class d and being in contact with engineers who know personally the contributor or the Hypex module not the inventor as many review said. Well there are many customised class d amp with same modules but what make difference is the implementation. You can buy molamola for 14k and I get the same one for 3k, same components i should say but different input. Taking this I decided to invest in well known brand rather than pay half price for the new 1200 Hypex that on paper should overperform the 500 but without implementation is not such a jump in sound (reason why I don’t buy amplifier from assemblers). another valid point I will not change speakers I just buy extra pair if I want something different, but Harbeth 40 is to keep for me. The important is to find a decent pre amp with at least two input to play vinyl and a Dac streamer.
Thank you Atmasphere for the accurate explaination who add value to this post and as well to Mapman to report his experience with Belcanto. I tried Belcanto preamp with old version of chip that was Icepower and I didn’t like, sounds was compressed but changed with external preamp. For what I understood class d preamp (so I assume most of the one who have streamer functions or Dac) are not evolved as the latest class d amp so is better to look for a traditional SS. I guess that Nad pre amp are class d circuit base however is true that AVM are transistor based the latest ones. Here i know the national distributor and there is a lot of second hand available for good price, Germans usually go to bigger brand like Burmester if they pay cash and brand new. For AVM I know the previous serie and was ok
nothing to make say is a miracle, however if a ss state preamp 10 years old had same technology I don’t go for a new product. SS preamp didn’t had significant jump in technologies in the past decades and no so many brands are still investing in these as people trend is class d or all in one system. So can you suggest me an old good as pre amp, if with phono even better, but a proper pre amp that I might find on second hand

Yes, there are producers as well more expensive here is not about affording is about a good one that can last 
Well thank you si much for the advices, quick question you might know the recent streamer from Nad that are preamp as well are in class d or transistor? I believe that having an external phono is better btw.. as I cannot demo and I need a streamer I might consider to take a streamer who does as well volume control and a preamp then decide if I have to keep both 
Well I just tried with an old preamp I have, connection with rca. To make it sound I need to turn the knob at 3/4, I guess is beause of the rca connection... sound is as well flat, no depth, no rich, hope is the pre I connect and the rca that is not the ideal type of connection 
Now trying with Nad c 658 and streaming. I can say sound got better and the definition as well but the separation between instrument is so clinical and analytical that is not enjoyable. I think is the chip on the amp, I mean somehow is flat and not 3D, is not involving, mids are not as it should they are thin, or I might need to get use to it or the burn in period is not done
And now I know what is, the singer is well behind the instruments so this is the scene, they are not aligned on the stage. The huge separation doesn’t make the sound to melt together, I get rid of the ampli after one week
@vdotman I think you are perfectly right about synergy etc, spendor in theory is alter ego of my speaker on classic line, however you have floorstander ones. To add a Belcanto preamp for other 6000usd doesn’t make sense for me, I will end it up with a system costing more than 10k with the unknown question if it sounds right for me same as adding a pre amp from McIntosh. At this point I could keep my ma8000 that was integrated even if sounded very coloured in the bass the stage was very coherent and musical