CJ Premier 14 used for around 2K, or PV14LS which is new and won't ship into the marketplace according to CJ until late Oct. or Nov. It is replacing the PV12. If you really want to make out give a listen to the PV10. I recently had one with the CA200 it was very musical, it's a giant killer IMO. I ungraded to the Premier 17 and have it driving a CA200 but it's new and runs around $4500, I haven't seen any on the used market.