Preamp for Bryston 4b3 & Tannoy Cheviots


I recently upgraded my amplifier from a Parasound A23+ to a Bryston 4B3 and upgraded my speaker cables to my Tannoy Cheviots to good effect. Before this upgrade, the other upgrade I’d been considering was to upgrade my Parasound Holo P6 preamp. Now that I have done the amp upgrade, I am starting to wonder what paired with the Bryston might make an additional increase in sound quality. I listen to a wide variety of rock music, a lot of roots music, Jazz and singer songwriters. I see a lot of music live, and having real instruments sound as real as possible and breadth and three dimensionality of soundstage are the goals I would like to maximize. I primarily stream music and have a separate DAC and digital reclocker so I am primarily looking for a pre where I am not paying for an on board DAC. A phonostage is also of no current value to me.  Though I have 1000 LPs in the garage, I haven’t had a turntable in years, and am reluctant to add an analog element to my system whose quality would be proportional to the other elements of my system. I have a large number of cds, but rarely play them. Similarly, I have no use for a bunch of home theater features and connections as my system is only for music.

I note the relatively new Bryston BP-19 is analog only and I assume would be a good mate to their amp. However, I haven’t found any in-depth reviews of it. I was also pondering the Primaluna Evo 300 or 400, but one of my dealers has been cautioning me against the long term expense and hassle of tubes. I’m thinking I might be able to spend around $6000 if it made a significant improvement in sound quality.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

The details of my system are as follows:

Amp: Bryston 4B3 300 w x 2

Pre:   Parasound Halo P6

Speakers: Tannoy Cheviots, Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9 gauge biwired cables (21’ run)

Digital Streamer/Source: Heavily modified BlueSound NODE 130 (added Fidelity Audio clock board & LPSU)/ Innuos Phoenix USB/ Gustard X26 Pro DAC (connected by Shunyata Alpha USB cables.

All other interconnects: Synergistics Research Foundation or better

Power: Power conditioner: Synergistics Research Powercell 10 SE Mk 3 w SR Atmosphere level 3 cord; All power cords SR Foundation
 

My listening room is also known as my wife’s living room. Please no suggestions as to room

corection as I have no control over the room. The speakers are on the 14 foot wall at the front of the house, and although the living room is 16 foot deep, it flows into a dining room space where the ceiling lowers. There are also a couch and windows on the left side, and interior wall on the right (where the TV and stereo system components are).

 

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I see a lot of music live, and having real instruments sound as real as possible and breadth and three dimensionality of soundstage are the goals I would like to maximize.

Given your stated objectives I’d skew toward a tube preamp.  The aforementioned LTA pre is an excellent recommendation, and I’d add the Aric Motherload XL, Atmasphere MP3 Mk3.3, and if you can stretch a bit or buy used the Backert Rhumba Extreme 1.3 is very worth considering.  Of course ARC and VAC should be on the radar as well.  One consideration may be if you want balanced connections.  I think your DAC is fully balanced and think your Bryston is too but not 100% sure on that.  Best of luck.

Obviously I should be able to figure this out on my own, but if any of you are already aware as to whether any of the suggested preamps are fully balanced that would be helpful info.

Of the ones I recommended the Atmasphere, Backert, ARC, and VAC preamps are fully balanced while the LTA and Aric are not.

Thanks for the mention, and I just wanted to clarify The Motherlode XL is fully balanced differential I/Os.

@aricaudio Sorry, my bad and thanks for the correction.  Got the XL mixed up with the Mk. ll from Terry’s review.  I wasn’t aware there was a fully-balanced version so good to know!

@aricaudio  Wow.  Getting fully-balanced architecture and several upgraded parts for only $1100 more for the XL seems like quite a bargain.  What specific performance differences do you hear in going from the Mk.II to the XL?

If headphones are likely part of your future that should put the LTA MicroZOTL high on your list as it’s an outstanding headphone amplifier in addition to preamp.  Also, sonically it walks a deft line offering something for people who like aspects of both tubes and solid state, and the tubes have a loooong life and are cheap to replace so very low maintenance as tube equipment goes.  This could well be a best of all worlds solution for you all things considered.  I believe they offer a 14-day trial that you might really consider taking advantage of.

Sorry, forgot about the balanced issue.  I’d go with the preamp that sounds best and get a dedicated headphone amp if/when the time comes.