Preamp dillema for McCormack Ultra Platinum


I've had my eye on either a McCormack TLC-1 or the RLD-1, to possibly replace my Ref 50. I've tried the VTL 2.5 but I believe the gain is too much.

Some have recommended the CJ preamps, I don't have to go with tubes, but since this DNA-1 amp has transformed my system, I was thinking of going with the RLD-1.

I would liken to stay under $1500, even $1K but depends on what's avail. I would like to end up with something like a Pass XP-20 but that's a bit of a stretch right now.

Thoughts on an older RLD-1 stock or upgraded vs. similar pre's?
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I have several of Steve's upgraded amps.  In fact, I just got back a modded DNA125 with some new stuff he hasn't done before.  It's phenomenal.  I also have legacy DNA.5 Platinum stereo amps and a single monoblock that I use for center channel.  I also had the TLC1 and RLD1 in the past in my system.

First of all, you have a great amp that will mate well with virtually any preamp.  The only exception is if you got yours modded to have balanced XLR inputs with Lundahls xformers.  This might make it slightly less friendly to certain preamps with high impedances.  There aren't many like that, but it's something to note.

The gain on Steve's amps is fairly high, so you can get away with a passive preamp...especially if you are using low capacitance interconnects and short runs.  The TLC1 is a good passive because it also has a buffered output in case you need to run long cables.

The RLD1 is also a nice piece for your budget, but my first question is why do you need a preamp?  Do you need multiple input selectors and/or a phono stage?  Many DACs now include a preamp/volume control, so I ask that question because doubling up on a preamp from the DAC and then a separate preamp can cause issues.  You have a tight budget, so I'm trying to potentially save you some money by just buying a high quality DAC with volume control.

Alternatively, if you need multiple input selectors and absolutely require a preamp, then I would look at a used CJ 17LS.  They are tough to find and probably a bit more than your budget, but it is a great preamp that I used to own. 

ARC makes great preamps too.  In fact, I'm even selling a used ARC preamp right now (LS12) that is actually SS.  I used it with McCormacks prior to getting a DAC with volume control.  It's got less gain than your VTL and sounds great.  Balanced is a noticeable benefit, but if you didn't have your amp modded to included balanced inputs, then it might be overkill.

I'd be happy to cut a fellow McCormack guy a deal, but frankly, I think the used RLD1 deal on Audiogon right now for under $600 might be your best bang for the buck.  The good thing about the RLD1 is that Steve can mod that too, so it's future proof like your amp.  It's probably your safest move if you really need a preamp.
It's hard to go wrong with either a CJ or ARC preamp in your budget.  

Both brands have remotes and retain their value when you buy them used.  There are other brands of course, but those two have quite a legacy and performance standard that make them safe pics.

A used Aesthetix would be another brand that is up there with the best, but I doubt you will find one in your budget.  Placette made a really high-end passive preamp that would be a notch above the TLC1 unmodded, but those are even rarer to find...especially with a remote.

Personally, if you're using the preamp for TV and game consoles, you might want to avoid tubes.  You're likely going to have to keep the preamp on a lot more with all those uses, and you will go through tubes much faster.  You may not find it worth the extra cost, heat, and higher noise floor of tubes with some of those applications.

As I mentioned, ARC makes a SS preamp in your budget (used) and the RLD1 would be a quality budget option for SS too.  I really don't see anything blowing the RLD1 away in your price range, but the ARC and CJ options would be first choice.