Power Cords Snake Oil ??


Having been a long time audiophile living with countless high end compnents I have to wonder about the theory and practicality of high end power cords.

I have yet to hear the difference a power cord makes. Ive owned, synergistic, Shunyata, BMI and cardas. I in no way can detect any sonic signature or change. Give me a pair of interconnects and I imeadiately notice a difference somewhere in the sonic spectrum. Not the PC though. I have accomplished 4 blind tests with my friends. 3 out of the 4 they did not know their cord was replaced. All 4 were using a stock factory supplied cord. Each of the 4 tests were done on different components. Amp, CDP, Preamp & dac.

My electrical backround tells me that provided you supply the component with its required voltage bet 110vac or 220/240vac its happy. Now, change the incoming frequency from 60hz to say 53hz and watch how quickly your soundstage collapses.! This is often the case during the summer months when home air conditioners are in use and the utility company power output is taxed to the max. A really good power conditioner should however take care of the frequency fluctuations. But 110vac is still 110vac regardless of the conductor it passes through as long as its remains 110vac when it reaches the intended circuit. Does your 8k amp or preamp know the difference of the path the voltage took to reach it ? Many an audiophile will use a dedicated 20amp circut for their equipment.That is a good idea as voltage & frequency fluctuations will occur in the home circuit to to other loads on the main breaker panel but again, A power cord simply is the means of transporting the voltage from the wall to the component. IF there is a clean 110vac @ 60hz at the wall socket, no matter what the medium is to go from the socket to the component, it will still be 110vac @60hz.

Could somebody expand on this a bit more. I just dont understand it. ??
jetmek

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Until then I can be found elsewhere on the Internet properly explaining this subject to people who are actually interested in learning something 
So you're on a mission. You're an audio Knights Templar, out to save the world from itself and destroy those who oppose you. Got it. 

One word of caution. This hobby, like anything else, doesn't take kindly to proselytizing or conversion therapies of any kind. It's much too broad in scope and experience, resulting in rich and varied experiences of a personal nature and not amenable to abusive and personal attacks. But then, you know that already from having to work from home, don't you?

You should have left my mom's purse out of this. 

All the best,
Nonoise


I remember when soda was 10 cents and they came out of a vertical rack that was hard for a kid to pull on. Sometimes they'd stick. I also grew up with this black ring around my finger from dialing for those rock concert tickets. And I do remember LBJ. Kind of.

All the best,
Nonoise
You seem close enough to an expert - do you think they’ll do that? Or can I expect to be able to sit around here and make fun of the aforementioned individuals indefinitely? 

Dude, knock yourself out. 

Also, I've never flagged a post in my life. People like you tend to burn out and then fade away, so whatever it takes to expedite that process.....
You're wrapped way too tight for folks around here. You're not the first to go around, banging your drum about double blind testing and proffering wagers, which the mods frown upon. You'll find out soon enough.


It’s entirely possible to double blind test something that’s 100% provable to anyone and come out with a 50% chance of certainty.

The test itself introduces many levels of uncertainty even before it starts. That’s why I’ve always referred to it as a cheap parlor trick. Comparing it to medicinal tests is a red herring, since all the subjects have the ailment in a medical study and not all the subjects in a listening test will have the same hearing acuity. It’s a different kettle of fish.

As to the mind and how it perceives betterment from a medication is not analogous to how someone can hear an improvement. The sick person will remain sick though one can hope enough to skew a momentary improvement, only to succumb to the ailment and get worse. The person who hears better will always hear better but can be tricked, in the short term and upon an extended listening period with their own, familiar system, can tell the difference. I’d even go so far as to say that one who is intimately familiar with their own system can tell if something is off within a shorter period of time. They may not be able to put their finger on it but they’ll know. I say this from my own experience.

In fact, there are those on these forums who’ve done better than average on double blind tests already and for some reason, are overlooked.

The fault that lies in unsighted testing is the simple fact that you’re removing an essential, sensory aspect to what completes an observation. Run your finger over a map and speak the name of the area you’re trying to remember and you’ll drastically increase the ability to remember it, and recognize it, later on. It’s how we’re designed; it’s in our DNA. Eliminate or curtail that process that we’re accustomed to using and you interject a form of chaos into our ability to discern. It’s no wonder how one can take a certainty and reduce it to simple chance by tying one’s arm (or a sense) behind one’s back and then say, ’lets see how well you do it now."

All the best,
Nonoise
The placebo effect argument works both ways. If you're of the mind that power cables won't make a difference, you'll not hear a difference. That, and you'll point to lots of other people who fell the same way and "documented" it. 

All the best,
Nonoise