Power Cords Snake Oil ??


Having been a long time audiophile living with countless high end compnents I have to wonder about the theory and practicality of high end power cords.

I have yet to hear the difference a power cord makes. Ive owned, synergistic, Shunyata, BMI and cardas. I in no way can detect any sonic signature or change. Give me a pair of interconnects and I imeadiately notice a difference somewhere in the sonic spectrum. Not the PC though. I have accomplished 4 blind tests with my friends. 3 out of the 4 they did not know their cord was replaced. All 4 were using a stock factory supplied cord. Each of the 4 tests were done on different components. Amp, CDP, Preamp & dac.

My electrical backround tells me that provided you supply the component with its required voltage bet 110vac or 220/240vac its happy. Now, change the incoming frequency from 60hz to say 53hz and watch how quickly your soundstage collapses.! This is often the case during the summer months when home air conditioners are in use and the utility company power output is taxed to the max. A really good power conditioner should however take care of the frequency fluctuations. But 110vac is still 110vac regardless of the conductor it passes through as long as its remains 110vac when it reaches the intended circuit. Does your 8k amp or preamp know the difference of the path the voltage took to reach it ? Many an audiophile will use a dedicated 20amp circut for their equipment.That is a good idea as voltage & frequency fluctuations will occur in the home circuit to to other loads on the main breaker panel but again, A power cord simply is the means of transporting the voltage from the wall to the component. IF there is a clean 110vac @ 60hz at the wall socket, no matter what the medium is to go from the socket to the component, it will still be 110vac @60hz.

Could somebody expand on this a bit more. I just dont understand it. ??
jetmek

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ostensible_constituency"Give us all a break here and just admit right now that you’re totally making this up. In fact, you need to prove the following right now before I can take anything else you say seriously:"

You would appear to be so substantially confused, disoriented and misinformed to such an extreme extent that it is almost impossible to respond to your foot-stomping demanding little elementary school tirade except to plainly explain that neither I nor anyone else here have to prove anything to you at all the entire burden of facts, proof and substantiation rests with you becausde you are the one making the claims, accusations, and prononcements.

" If such a study was commenced, I would GLADLY bet all my money on the notion that the results would demonstrate, beyond doubt, that the power cable company’s claims are bogus."

How much money is that for someone like you who writes, thinks and challenges like that of a third or fourth grader it is probably your entire piggy bank is it more than $100 USD? Please explain to us the exact amount of resources that you are willing to commit to the challenge you put forth towards the participants here in this group.

"  concentrating only on power mains cables in an equivalent system, depending on the amount of $$ I was willing to put on it. How much $$ would it take for you to participate, whether it was myself or one of the cable companies putting it up?"

It is increasingly apparent that you are not serious, legitimate or honest so answering your question would yield no progress in this discussion which is tuning into a thread where you are talking to yourself like a fool on a street corner or more accurately in all likelihood like a child spurned and alone at recess.

ostensible_constituency" AUDIOGON - FLIP YOU - Delete me and my account. I DEMAND that you do so now... fake credentials and is a major liar, let’s all agree that he’s a bigger loser than anyone who works at Subway, shall we?... All he can do is come up with BS psuedo-science descriptors for the grifting he attempts to pull off../HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH God what a bunch of losers... I'm not going anywhere until my account is deleted or someone here offers up a definitive stance... I asked Audiogon mods - some of whom are clearly monitoring this very thread - to delete my account... why don't you try to help me get what I asked for; namely for them to delete my account?... butt TFO if you don’t have anything to contribute one way or the other besides "predicting" moderator behavior... I’m finished with you because you haven’t contributed anything to any discussion in literal years that is worth addressing. Unless you want to address what I said regarding your nonsense fake credentials and documented history of trying to foist snake oil and quantum-nonsense... Still no contact from the moderators. Maybe they're not all that concerned...Once again your powers of perception and interpretation fail you. Perhaps you’re not the Internet superhero that you present yourself to be?... Cue up your latest report of my comment to a moderator... I am not a shrink, but I think that we need one here and ’stat’!"

This guy is a first class whacko nutcase and a decisive example of the dangers of drug and alcohol use the moderators have shown sound judgement and prudence by leaving his posts hear for all to examine as an example of what can go wrong in the human brain let us all hope he gets the professional help he so obviously is in great need of and I hope he gets his diaper changed soon too it's obvious that's it has a load in it!
cleeds"No one here owes anyone anything, including complying with demands for scientific evidence, participating in double-blind studies or being ridiculed or shamed for refusing to wager with an anonymous Internet user."

I will not be "shamed" and I am not afraid of a wager although I admit I remain dubious and skeptical about those who pursue such wagers because in the passed they're motives have been demonstrated and proven to be bogus, fraudulent, and deceptive and the only way to expose such a fraud is to be willing to accept the wager provided it is genuine, sincere and based in an actual scientific setting with a proper design, administrator, and controls yet so far no such offer has been presented here to the group. I admit is is easier for me because of my success in business a $25,000 USD wager does not represent a sizeable risk because  the loss would not be substantial to my net worth or costs of living so I can use this economic freedom to help reveal and expose those who are using this group for purposes for which the group is not intended and in fact in ways that may be violation of various US laws.
ostensible_constituency"I would wager everything that I own and my kid’s college savings that you could not distinguish the difference between two power cables of equivalent length, same AWG (even "effective AWG") with ALL other variables in the given system controlled - more than 50% of the time."

How much money in $USD are you talking about in this offer of yours if it is of sufficent amount to make it work my time I will consider it please post the specific amount. I must note as a matter of personal transparency that previous such offers have been revealed to be fraudulent efforts to obtain personal information.