@pinwa good to know...I will check them out as well
Another seemingly good option is Shunyata's latest releases. I spoke to them back in December and they were very excited about the Gamma and Theta lines in that they are their best cost to performance ratio products ever in their lineup. I spoke to a couple dealers that said the same. I know I am talking to the MFG and dealers so there's that, but still very reasonable for big name PCs at $500 & $1000 in their standard lengths.