Power consuption of an amplifier


Hi, friends!

Maybe you can help me to figure out the peak power consumption of my amp.

I have bought Micromega M-150 from USA, but I live in Europe now. The amp's voltage is 120v, but I have 230v in socket here. So, I'm going to buy a step-down coverter 230v to 120v. Each step-down converter is designed for some maximum load, 150W, 450W, 600W, 1500W etc. So I need to know how much power my amplifier consumes from a socket to choose a coverter.

The problem is that I found three different points of view:

1) The Micromega's manual says: 

Power consumption: Standby : 1W

2 channels -1/8 Pmax under 8 Ohms : 185W

The seller says this is the maximum and I should take converter with double reserve, let it be 450W

2) Hi-Fi News Lab Report says:

Power consumption (idle/rated o/p): 40W / 480W (3W, standby)

I was told in another audiophile forum that 480W is maximum. So we can take with reserve 600W converter.

3) On same forum another guy counted this way:

You should take the dynamic power for two channels and multiply it by two. It means like 300W*2*2=1200W. And as the dynamic power of this amp on 1Ohm is 690W you showd take at least a 1500W conerter.

So I'm confused... The converter I want (Krieger) is 1150W maximum available and costs too much with shipping.

Amp specs:

Power by channel: 150W for 8Ohms, 300W for 4Ohms (I have 4Ohms speakers)

Efficiency 95%

Two power supplies - one for each channel

I wrote to Micromega, but they were bought by another company three years ago and stopped support.

I hope someone here could help me with this problem.

iad

Showing 14 responses by iad

@imhififan that would be great, I have sent email to company-owner of Micromega, la boite concept, and to three repair shops which may have experience with this model. Hope someone will answer. 

Thank you for your reply, Jerry! So, we have two opinions already smiley

How do you think, is it real if amplifier consumes 185W but delivers 300W? 

I'm a novice in physics

gs5556, thanks for your advice.

If I understand right, if power consumption will exceed max power of transformer, the transformer will just turn off because of built-in protection.

I don't know, if the socket is 1800W it doesn't mean that the amplifier will take whole 1800W, right?

I'm looking into this model now:

https://www.bronson-energy.com/shop/bronson-ti-1000-620

It's German, silent, made including for music equipment, toroidal and looks nice, has good reviews from music lovers.

Oh yeah, this would be ultimate solution!

But I'll try to double rating, because my wallet is already bleedinglaugh

Remains to be seen what amount to double. 185, 480 or just get a monster transformer for 1500-5000W.

Taking into account all points of view, for now I think the best way to take a 1000W transformer because it will cover fully option 1, will be enough for option 2, and maybe suit for option 3 (cause I don't think I can listen to this amp so loud that it will need 1500W).

@mswale Nothing is written on the back (just 120v), but I agree with you about listenenig volume

@jea48, Yeah, thats what we are talking about. If we have consumption power 480W and take a transformer that can handle 1000W, isn't it enough to have a double reserve for peak power consumption? And again, if it depends on listening volume, I'm not gonna terrorize my neighbors. No matter that I love death metal, I like to listen to it on comfortable level, like a middle between relaxing and having fun you know. 

What about LLC SMPS, it's advantages are possibility of low power consumption at light-load/standby and efficiency up to 98%, M150 has 95%, which must mean that the real power consumption is not far from it's power output. Again, quote from hifinews:

M150 is reinforced by a PFC (Power Factor Correction) version of its RPS power supply. Rated at 150W/8ohm, the M-150 delivers 2x167W/8ohm and 2x315W/4ohm with 175W, 335W, 565W and 690W available under dynamic conditions into 8, 4, 2 and 1ohm loads. 

My speakers have minimum 3ohm, not less if I understand right Erin's graph:

But I don't understand what is EDPR, it's something terrifying. 

 

@curiousjim I'm trying to find out now if it is inside. It is not possible to find a service manual on Internet. I asked a question to La Boite Concept customer service and on one french hi-fi forum. I don't want to open it myself, I'm afraid to break something. And I don't believe local services much, because they are working with vintage equipment mostly, not modern. But If I'll be sure it is possible, I'll go to service and ask to open it.