Power conditioner some say yes and some say no.


Depending on who I ask a power transformer conditioner can have a good effect on the sound while others claim they inhibit the dynamics of an amp. I don’t have serious power problems as far as I know but I enjoy my sound most of the time. I currently use a Hydra 6 for my entire system except for my amp where I use a Hydra 2. Would it make sense to invest thousands on a power transformer conditioner or would my Hydras be enough by isolating the components from each other. I was waiting for a Keces IQRP 3600 to try but the dealer I was to get it from died from Covid-19 before arranging my Keces to be shipped. I am out $4000 and am not so fast to drop another $4000 on the Keces. Perhaps in the future if it makes sense. I find that not many use transformer conditioners due to the dynamics limitations of the amp. Any help would be appreciated.
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The audio companies have invented a component for people to waste their money.
Ha! Mostly true- the PSAudio is the only one that actually seems to work. As I probably mentioned earlier in this thread, Elgar made the best we've seen- and they got out of the conditioner market a long time ago. But their stuff was industrial/commercial and simply had to work. And it does. In addition to keeping the output waveform under 0.5% up to full current capacity, it also regulates line voltage. Pretty neat trick- the only other conditioner mentioned on this thread that can do any of that is the PSAudio.


You have to have active circuitry for the conditioner to really do anything of significance. Otherwise its a glorified power strip.
Power in watts is volts times amps. W=VA.
This is only true if there are no phase differences between the current and voltage. If there is a phase angle involved (inductive load) things might be quite different.
That absolutely does not happen with isolation transformers.
As long as you don't run them past about 50% of their rated capacity.
I worked for Roger Modjeski for several years. He was always of the opinion that if you designed the power supply of a component properly then additional power conditioning would not be needed. In his system he used an inexpensive power strip, mainly just to have the ability to power on/off all his components simultaneously.
@clio09 I've found this to be true too- you really have to regulate!

If regulation isn't an option then a power conditioner can do some good- but it had better actually be a real power conditioner and not a glorified power strip (which describes most of the 'high end audio power conditioners'). If you don't push them too hard the PSAudio power regeneraters are quite decent.


The best conditioner I've seen was made by Elgar for commercial industrial use. It has the ability to regulate line voltage and put out a clean since wave (with guaranteed distortion less than 0.5%) right up to full current, some of which can support 28 amps continuous! These units are older as Elgar got out of the business decades ago and so have to be refurbished with new filter caps for their power supplies and the like. But they do offer improved sonics!


Its the 5th harmonic of the AC line frequency that is arguably the most pesky. This can occur when the line transformers on the telephone poles are pushed past 50% of their total capacity of for that matter any transformer in the chain between the power plant and the wall outlet. The 5th harmonic is hard to filter out because of its low frequency (300Hz) so the smaller 'conditioners' simply can't do it. It can cause power transformers to run warm and make noise, diodes to radiate more 'diode noise' and synchronous motors to perhaps run the wrong way. You can google this topic; Fluke instruments has a number of articles available.


Most of the 'high end audio power conditioners' I've seen are deleterious to the performance of our amps; I tell our customers to stay away from them or only use them for the front end of the system.


Many audiophiles understand that power cords can have a sonic effect (which is caused by the voltage drop across them- they are subject to Ohm's Law like everything else in electricity); consider that a glorified power strip forces you to use one power cord for a variety of stuff which might include two monoblock amps. If the amps are rated to make full power with 120 Volts available, there's good chance this won't happen if the voltage drop on the 'power conditioner' power cord is significant (2-3 volts is not unheard of). If the power cord or the connectors it uses (including the AC outlet) tend to get warm that's a Bad Sign. I've seen this phenomena rob an amplifier of a good 40 watts of output power- under those circumstances its easy to see how this could also be audible :)