Power Cables which take the soundstage back


Hello,
I have almost always focused on ICs and Spk Cables...but I always knew that Power chords also make a good difference. This is the first time I am venturing seriously into power chords. I am not looking for anything fancy. Primarily I see power chords should be doing the following:

a) Clean up the background noise (because of better shielding etc) which a stock chord would not be doing a good job at.

b) Provide good current capabilities which enables to make music denser, tones get more body and especially bass gets meatier and tighter (the last one normally happens more often)

These are primarily two things I am looking at.
I have tried some power chords in the near past and I have observed one common pattern:

1. Power chords which tighten up the bass (in comparison to stock chords) also bring the images a bit forward.

2. Some Power chords do a good job of taking the soundstage further back...I dont know how and why but I have seen it happening. Some of them end up presenting a bit loose bass in the process (only some of them)

So, for me at this point, a power chord which can take the soundstage back (without introducing anomalies like loose bass) would be a wonderful addition. Thats a very critical requirement for me. I am sure you guys would have experienced power chords which do such things. I am not intending to shell out more than $200 (new or used) at this point. Kindly suggest.
pani

Showing 6 responses by shellie

If you can not hear a difference with different power cords in your system then none exists (for you). However if you CAN hear a difference then don't let ANYONE talk you into thinking you can't trust your own ears. After all if you cannot trust your ears then who's ears can you trust? The person telling you to ignore your senses?

To my ears power cords (yes the cable that connects a component to the wall for its AC power) is the single biggest contributor (cable wise) to what a system will ultimately sound like. I don't care what anyone else has to say regarding why this cannot be true and neither should you. Call the Cable Company and have them send you a few different cables for your digital front end and perform a week long listening test and let YOUR ears decide. After that you will either believe in power cords, or not.

In my system I've had good luck with Synergistic Research and Audience power cords.
Tpreaves,
I took the Pepsi challange with Valhalls and others against Synergistic Tesla PC's and it was no contest (in my system). The Teslas kicked butt.

Fortunately my dealer allowed me to audition every cable under the sun.

I recommend just that- audition everything you can and then, and only then, make your decision.
Are you / he listening for us all or is there room for those of us who have heard "expensive" powercords make a positive difference in our "expensive" systems? What if we also feel these positive differences were well worth the price? Are we allowed to listen and trust our senses or are we to trust in something/someone else?

Please let me know what we "should" do, oh and thanks in advance.
Macdadtexas,
While I apreciate your and others right to an opinion, your assertion that so long as the power is "clean" or if a high quality AC conditioner is present, then little or no gain can be realized from high end (expensive) powercords down stream is false to my ears. This has NOT been my finding on occasions too numerious to mention. In fact I suspect that if I could plug my system directly into the local power plant it would sound better then it does today and if I used my power conditioner and power cords it would sound better still and in the exact same ways it does 10 miles from my local power plant.

As always, and I am sure NO ONE will disagree with this- listen for yourself and then decide. Anyone who tries to talk anyone out of simple listening tests, at home no less, has an agenda. This hobby is about listening to music and getting the most from our personal systems after all.
Macdadtexas,
No I am not in the audio business. I am an audiophile. I love music and playing around with audio gear. For years that meant components and speakers- not cables and "tweaks". I learned a lot but never got to where I wanted to go sound wise. The sound was always compressed and lacked the holographic presence I sought. This changed when I found cables and in particular power cords.

My post(s) were in response to what I see as an anti-audiophile bias from some who pretend to have interest in a subject, like "what power cords move the soundstage back" only to make fun and deny what those of us who have actually taken the time to listen clearly hear. This is usually followed by an appeal to authority that implies the anti-audiophile stance is correct while those of us who enjoy the benefit of audiophile products (cables, line conditioners, cones, racks, etc) are delusional, or worse.

So we can't trust our ears? Back to my first point- whom or what can we trust? Our senses, or someone trying to convince us that we should not trust our senses and should instead place our trust in their straw man arguments? Are you here to save us? Had you posted something along the lines of "all amplifiers sound alike and when not, they are colored or of poor construction”. Had I read that thread or post, I would have asked the same questions, made the same points, and shared my observations. All for the exact same reasons I am posting here. The fact is, after years of messing around with components and speakers I have never found any component or speaker system to deliver the same level of improvement (over other components and speakers) in sound I get from careful cable system matching. This observation is based on a dollar to benefit earned basis, so value.

Anyway, good to know your position and again while you are clearly entitled to it, it is contrary to what I and thousands of audiophiles around the world experience every day. Take the OP's reason for starting this thread in the first place. It was looking for answers to which cables could help him/her realize their audio goals and not "do power cords really work?" and certainly not “can I trust my ears”.
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