Power Cable DIY - Please advise


Hi,

Im planning on building a pair of DIY power cables, I have shortlisted a few cables and connectors, please feel free to recommend which one to purchase.

Furutech FP TCS31
Acoustic Revive Powermax 10000
Acrolink ???
NeoTech NEP 3200

connectors... Furutech FI 28/E38 or FI50 gold or rhodium??

Thanks in Advance
narcissus

Showing 7 responses by mitch2

If you were to provide the components in your system (or post your virtual system), which components you are planning to power with the new cords and what budget range you are considering then folks could better advise. Otherwise, responses are likely to be all over the board.

My general response regarding DIY is that you can get a high bang-for-your-buck and, that for most ranges of components, potential differences are overrated so you can spend a lot of money that would be better spent on component upgrades. I would recommend heavier gauge conductors for power amps, and shielding cords for digital components, but not power amps. If you want bulk cable, Furutech FP-Alpha 3 is pretty good for power amps, and even preamps. Furutech FP-3TS20 is good for digital components. Both of those use Alpha-PCOCC stranded conductors. I have heard from an amplifier manufacturer that Furutech’s newer FP-S20N and FP-S35N cables with embedded nano particles are also quite good.

If you are on a tight budget, three twisted or braided Western Electric WE 10ga wires with Furutech FI-11(Cu) male and iec connectors (shielded for digital components) may be all you will need. There is a manufacturer that makes cords from this wire that are very well reviewed. Cost for two 6-foot cords using this wire would be in the ballpark of $300 if you can buy the connectors at a sale price - try Sonic Craft. Good luck.
The VH Audio Flavor 4 cord, if constructed with Chris' purpose-built wire, does in fact consist of four conductors. The star-quad configuration consists of connecting the two conductors opposite (not next to) each other for each polarity.  For example, if the four conductors corresponded to 3, 6, 9, and 12 o'clock, then the 12 and 6 o'clock conductors would be connected together for one polarity (load or neutral) and the 3 and 9 o'clock conductors would be connected together for the other polarity.    The purpose of the star quad geometry is to reduce inductance - a good thing for power cords and speaker cables The ground is typically twisted/spiraled around the four conductors in the opposite direction that the conductors are twisted/spiraled.  If a shield is used, then it is recommended to place the ground outside of the shield.  It is also recommended to space the shield a bit away from the conductors but it can be difficult to decide what "spacing" material to use so many would simply place the shield directly over the pvc sheath carrying the conductors without using spacer material.  Finally, connect the ground wire at both ends and the shield only at the plug end not at the iec end.
I wouldn't worry about timing - electricity hasn't changed.  The wires I use are probably 40 years old!

Based on my experience, I would probably consider the Flavor 4 for power amps only, and not for front end gear.  The conductors are 12 awg so two per pole results in a hefty 9 awg per pole.

I would probably look at the Furutech  FP-3TS20 for front end gear.  The  Furutech FP-Alpha 3 is also good for power amps.  As others have mentioned, the Neotech cords are not bad either and I also have a couple of them, made with Furutech plugs/iecs.  I would probably not shield PCs used for power amps, and maybe not even those used with preamps.  Definitely use shielded cables with your digital gear.
Furutech FP-alpha 3 has been superseded by the FP TCS31...
Interesting.  The site you reference is a third-party site and not Furutech's own site....where they still show the FP-Alpha 3 as one of their products.  FP-Alpha 3 is also still listed for purchase at Partsconnexion but I noticed The Cable Company doesn't carry it anymore and I do remember reading something about a supplier of OCC wire being no longer in business, which is maybe why Furutech started with the Triple-C wire.  The FP TCS31 is a slightly smaller gauge and doesn't use PE insulation so it may sound a bit different.  If you want FP-Alpha 3, try Partsconnexion since maybe it is no longer available once existing stock is gone.  I will not be selling mine.
knownothing, I have been curious about the  Nanotec #308 "Wonderful" Power Cable and the associated SP#777 GREAT speaker cable.
I believe they are infused with gold/silver nano liquid similar to Furutech's FP-S035N and S020N power cables.  I have heard good things about those Furutech cords from a manufacturer I know, who also harvests the wire internal to the power cord casings for hook-up wire and for speaker wire. 
I understand you like them a lot, can you describe how they sound?
Your best options could vary depending on which equipment you plan to power.
In general, front end equipment such as servers, players, and DACs do not need a large a gauge as large power amplifiers.  However, some would argue that anything over about 14awg is overkill anyway.  The bulk cables by Furutech and Nanotec are supposed to be quite good and I have successfully used various Furutech bulk power cables including the  FP-3TS20 for front-end gear and FP-Alpha (unshielded) for power amplifiers.  I have heard from somebody I trust for audio impressions that Furutech's new nano-liquid treated power cables sound very good. 

My most recent DIY efforts have included using Western Electric vintage wire, which I find to sound good for both speaker cables and power cables.  My large SS Class A amplifiers and SS preamp sound good with 7 awg power cables made from four runs of WE10ga wire that are twisted and connected in a star-quad configuration with two 10awg wires per pole.  I use a tinned copper braid shield connected only at the source end, and then two more WE10ga wires spirialed outside of the braid shield and connected to ground at each end.  The cords are terminated with Furutech FP-11 Cu connectors.  I have no doubt this is overkill and that a simple twisted pair of the WE10ga wire (it comes in twisted pairs) plus ground would work just fine for virtually any amplifier.

The Furutech DPS4.1 is supposed to be a really good sounding power chord.  I have other Furutech power cords here that I use and like but have not heard the DPS4.1.  One consideration is that for power amplifiers I typically like the largest gauge chord I can use and have tried as large as 7awg on my power-hungry amplifiers. 
The Furutech DPS4.1 is an 11awg sized cord and the materials and construction are different from the Neotech NEP3200 (you indicated "FP" but I believe you meant "NEP").  The Neotech cord is larger (9awg) and is one of the few cords that are actually made from individually insulated solid core wire.  Solid core wire is typically not recommended for power cords due to the higher risk of failure (compared to stranded wire) when the cord is subjected to repeated bending.  However, the Neotech cord gets around that by using multiple, smaller, individually insulated wires.  It is also highly rated by listeners and would probably be my choice for power amplifiers compared to the DPS4.1.
Regarding DIY power cords, I prefer to terminate premanufactured cable vs. using hook-up wire to make cords.  I have done it both ways and for safety and uniformity (i.e., evenly spaced geometry) I like using the premanufactured cable.
Regarding Rhodium connectors, you basically need to listen and decide what you like.  Furutech connectors are typically awesome and as good or better than what you get on most manufactured cables.  The thing about Furutech connectors is that the base metal is typically copper so the plating IME makes more of a subtle sonic flavoring than a wholesale change.

Furutech DPS4.1
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/power-cable-diy-please-advise/posts/Furutech%20DPS4.1

Neotech NEP3200
http://wp.neotechcable.com/pcc-up-occ-copper-cable/