Porsche

When you ride a Porsche, best music is coming from the engine. You stop radio and enjoy flat6 sound, especially atmos ones ;-)

^^^ truth here ^^^

yes, until the newer turbo 911's came out... i guess the good thing is those cars made the sound system in the car more relevant

hybrids are next... ugh

not making a dig, just an observation, which i believe to be true

i don’t know you in person, you may well be a swell guy without the keyboard and the screen name

but with your persona here, i would think a big boy like you would be more used to the incoming and just shrug it off

the rest of us here are just trying to discuss the hobby, share info, learn and contribute back where we can, be friendly, have fun, in way that doesn’t diminish others unnecessarily

anyhow, hope you have a great holiday weekend and are enjoying the music

miller, it isn’t always about you... we don’t care that much... really

just be like a duck, let the water droplets roll off your back...

this isn’t the right place to get into minutae on porsche 911 history, racing heritage, model variants, engine types, hans mezger, andi preuninger, modern evolution/devolution, what was/is a ’gts’ designation on a base model such as 911, cayman, macan, and so on

anyone who cares to learn everything on the topic should go to rennlist.com

like a-gon, the search function there is your friend, and will help build your knowledge quickly and efficiently

GT = Grand Touring
GTS = Porsche Badge that is not limited to the 911 Carrera. The 911 GTS is by no means a tarted up 911. It has a top speed of 193 MPH.
It also lops off 6/10 of a second (3.2 vs 3.8) in the standard 0-60 MPH benchmark as compared to a standard 911 (both with the Sport Chrono PKG). That difference is well beyond substantial. As far as tarting a car up goes: 94 more HP and 91 more foot pounds of torque is in the neighborhood of a 25% increase when combining the two increases into a single stat.

All that said: let’s not lose sight of the fact that a GT3 barely out performs the GTS, and does so only in place. For instance: the 2 cars share the exact same 0-60 MPH times with the GT3 gaining only 6 MPH in top track speed (199 vs 193 MPH). It must be that whopping 23 more HP the GT3 has over the GTS?
All changes aside, and as extensive as they may be, calling the GT3 a tarted up GTS rings much truer than calling a GTS a tarted up 911, when considering performance alone. The fact remains, Porsche builds the GT3 to go racing, and it’s a bonafide race car with its built-in roll cage and other mandated race features that qualify it to be raced in the GT3 class by Porsche and other race teams. You can now get them with Touring packages for those that don’t plan on running them at the track (it does away with the giant swan tail- as they currently call it).

sorry but so much of this is incorrect... factually and in use... the poster seems to have an interest in these cars but is inexperienced and just mistaken about the history leading to the present of the 911 and its variants