Plus and Minus


Got into a discussion with a few fellow musician audiophiles.  

Issue one:  The fidelity of home playback versus live music.  After much bantering about, it became, 'How can you tell?"  If you didn't hear it live or you don't listen to live music, how can you say your playback system is true to live?  Interesting question.  I put forward, if your monkey bone tells you it is live - then it is live.  After all, who's to say what you hear and what someone else hears is true to live or not.  If you like it - its live to you.

Second issue:  How can you tell if a tweak is positive or negative?  If put it in, did it bring you closer? When you take it out, did it make it worse?  I put forward the notion that if you put it in and listen to it for a bit and then take it out, the question becomes did it take you there or take you away?  After all, you listened to your system without it and you know how it sounded; putting something in changes it (presumably) and only after taking it out can you judge if you really like it or not or are you enamored with it.  On this, there was general agreement.

Lastly, does 'how much you paid' factor into the equation?  That was universally shot down.  There are incredible audio values in a specific piece that belay its cost.  You just gotta hunt them down.  There was agreement that there was a law of diminishing returns.  I put forth the notion that the chase for the best knows no boundary save the wallet.  The smiles and nods were universal on this point.  The law being:  If you can afford it ....

Funny hobby we have.  The monkey bone should guide us and the wallet supporting us; yet, we argue about what each other hears and neither side has the same bone n' wallet.  :-)
keesue

Showing 3 responses by oldhvymec

He's a musician, pay attention... Audiofilers should listen.. # 2 is one of the best way to see if things got the mojo going on.. plain and simple..

Not install, oh wow it changed the world, BUT.. that warm and fuzzy, makes you forget the tweak.. I get what he's saying..

#3 is easy for me to understand, because of my best friend. YUP in Sheldon,Washington. Hech of a musician. You'd swear he has a 1% patch somewhere. A true gentleman, though.

He has got the Martin bug BAD.. Gosh he can play those things... MERCY...Pick up a sax at one time and just tear it up.. (wind issue now), keyboards. Sing like an angle, and play WELL at the same time.. I'm telling you he could have given Page or Clapton a run for their money... Jimmy NO...

He's really into playback now laying down track, his time is short. He want's his stuff recorded..He did it himself.. He's changed his tune a little when it comes to the audiophile world. He understands. THEY will argue with the guy that make the music... No idea how to make it but love to listen and argue, why an amp don't match well with speakers, or a cable change, will open up a pair of speakers.. They usually scratch their head and walk away, and then take the cotton out of their ears, and say.
What's that mate?

What's that mate.. LOL

Regards
Erik, if you could, would you. if you could and had all the means, would you buy the absolute best you could buy?

OR Does any of that play into it? I know you like quality sound, have you gotten where you won’t be changing things. Done that’s it?

I sure was for 16 plus years...Very close again, but I’m pretty happy with my selections... I kept the cost WAY down, except for a few blunders, a cable drop...for one..True "Monkey Bone" experience.

Regards
Erik, yea I should show a little courtesy, I get to blabbin’.

Excuse me OP, didn’t mean to goof the thread up...

Where you at OP.. Don’t start something and run off..Now...

More "Monkey bone" material needed, LOL

Regards