Please recommend used tonearm under $1K


longer than 9" preferable, to be used with an SP-10MK2 and Virtuoso MM cartridge. The tonearm does not have to be modern. In fact, something vintage that can be easy to source through here or eBay is fine.

I favor rock, so dynamics and slam are crucial. Good imaging and soundstage DEPTH are also important.

The bonus is if the arm keeps solid value because I eventually want to move up to the Trans-Fi T3.
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Here is one new, I just purchased the 9" version. I showed it to a friend who used to sell audio and he guessed that it was a $2000 arm. I use to have the Lustre, which is a good arm and has VTA adjustment while playing. I would go with the Jelco myself as it is new and I believe more likely to fit a wide range of cartridges.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?anlgtnrm&1275543991&/Jelco-SA-750L-hi-end-damping-f
What is the mass of the Lustre without headshell compared to the 9" 750? It is my impression that the 750 is less but couldn't find the definitive answer. I used the 801 many years ago and it was not among the top arms THEN, let alone now. Have you compared it to the Jelco? The OP wanted an arm longer than 9", the Jelco is one of the few that would fall in his price range. I intend to do the opposite, to put my Lustre headshells on the 750 to play around with some of my low compliance cartridges.I am aware of your very idiosyncratic views on the subject and don't care to get into a protracted debate over questions that involve opinion and taste.
Raul, anytime you would like me to offer YOU unsolicited advice on your system I will be glad to do so. You seem to think your opinion is the only thing that counts and that the oftener you repeat your fantasies the more true they become.Whenever anyone says anything you disagree with you attack them personally. You respect me but think I am ignorant; strangely, that mirrors my attude about you except for the respect part. A cursory look at the literature will reveal very few who agree with you, I have know almost no one in the last 25 years who used a MM cartridge in preference to MC. I suppose companies like Ortofon that make both are lying to their customers when they say that their MCs are their best cartridges. I could refure you to contemporary tests of the Lustre and some other arms you admire done by blind listening panels but your mind is made up. YOU gave NO evidence whatsoever to refute anything I said except to express your opinion. You are welcome to yours and I will continue to express mine, I am sorry that this appears to make you uncomfortable. I addressed the OP , not you and said that while I liked the Lustre I would buy the Jelco. I am sorry that you feel I have no right to my opinion, but as he wanted a 12" arm I don't see how the Lustre is a better choice, unless it has grown since I had one. Have you owned one of the 12" 750s? If so what was wrong with it?
If you actually read what I originally said I agreed that the 801 was a good arm. If you read contemporary reviews no one thought at the time that it was "the best" arm. The EPA 500, which I had at the same time was a better arm, as were others I have used. I preferred the Zeta, Ittok, SME 4, SME 309, VPI 12.7, Graham 2.2 and probably the Fidelity Research 64. I would still recommend a very good NEW arm [the Jelco 750] over a 30 year old used arm for the average user. I cannot understand how expressing a personal preference for one product over another somehow denigrated the less favored product. My opinions are just that, opinions. I do not confuse them with infallible pronouncements that somehow affect the structure of the universe. Since you don't think I know what I am talking about why do you CARE what I think. You appear to be one with Augustine in regarding it to be a sin to let another remain in error. Let me warn you, that path leads to the Spanish Inquisition.
Dear Raul, when HIFICHOICE reviewed detachable headshell tone arms in the 80s the FR was the best performing one, I don't recall if the Lustre was included in the group but several respected arms were. You are apparently intent on confusing your personal opinion with THE TRUTH, I do not make that mistake. I can not understand how anyone who makes the laughable statements you do is taken seriously by anyone but that is not my problem. Anyone who would promote a P Mount cartridge with adapter as an ultimate cartridge has a perspective different not only from me but from anyone else I know. About the time you got into audio I was already using a much better Technics cartridge, the 205, which remains one of the best MMs ever made. I still have a couple.