Placement of Magnepan 1.6's or 3.6's


I'm rearranging my living room which is 18.5' X 11.5'. I'm getting ready to buy new Maggies, (I've had Tympani 1D's for 20 years.) I planned to get 1.6's and have them facing the short width of the room. A friend suggested that I might have them face the longer length, in which case I could fit the 3.6's. I didn't consider that before because I have a Steinway B grand piano that is 7' long and will sit across the short width of the room. If the speakers are basically a couple of feet from the corners of the room, the body of the piano will partially obstruct the listening V between the speakers and the listener. Is that a problem? Does that listening space need to be completely unobstructed? The Magnepan brochure has them pictured in a corner directly against the wall with a couch a couple of feet out. What do you think? It would be great if they could fit and sound at their best facing the large length of the room. If the piano is not a problem, would the 1.6's be enough or do I need to get the 3'6's?
Thanks.
Tony
tconny
You can use the Thiel speakers on the short wall (firing down the length of the room if you can place them well out from the back wall and close to the side wall with your listening position triangulated and with the axis of the speaker crossing well in front of the listening position (which will eliminate most problems associated with side wall reflections). Since Thiel usuall recommends firing the speaker straight ahead you can keep toeing them in until the reach the corresponding angle. Don't let the crosseyed effect bug you, it can really work. If it does you will also find that someone sitting next to you will also get a good stereo image even though they may be sitting right in front of one of the speakers. I wouldn't try to use Maggies in your room - Travis is right on about the photos.
Thanks Guys.
Sounds like I should go with the 1.6's and place them along the long wall. Never heard of Cardas website before. Great information. How much should I try to sell my old Tympani 1-D's for? They're biege, 20 years old, used in a no children, smoke or pet environment.
Thanks,
Tony
I don't know Thiel speakers. Why does Newbee recommend them and why not Maggies. It would be great to not have to accommodate the size of the Maggies and still get the great sound I'm used to. Which Thiel's does Newbee recommend?
Tconny, My mind must have wandered when I read your thread and the following posts - for some reason I thought you were referring to Thiel 3.6's. I certainly was not recommending Thiels, nor would I. Sorry for causing confusion - I feel really dumb! However, since I already look kinda stupid I'm ready to risk complete being a complete idiot by making an unasked for observation. FWIW I think your room size might be much more ameniable to dynamic speakers than panels or electrostats due to the difficulty of setup. If I had your room I would probably get mid-sized monitors, like the recently reviewed Harbeth 7's, place them on the short wall about 4 ft out into the room, about 8 ft apart, with the listening position about 8 to 9 ft away. I would listen to them as close to on axis as possible to minimize first reflections from side walls. Then I'd get a small and fast sub woofer to fill in the bass between 32hz and 60hz and probably place it some where on or close to the wall behind your speakers. This system might not be in an absolute sense better than perfectly set up panels but I'm not sure you can really accomplish that set up in your room. (I went from Quad 63's to dynamics for much the same reason in a room somewhat larger, but not much larger, than yours). Anyway sorry I created confusion for you in my original post.
If you like the sound of the Maggies you should look into some VMPS ribbon speakers. They've been raved about enough. More info in the VMPS circle at audiocircle.com. These are much easier to place and you wouldn't need a sub. You may find that you like them better. Here's the VMPS site:
http://www.vmpsaudio.com/
Do a search at the various audio forums and you'll like what you hear. These are more coherent than the Maggies with and are very versatile for room setups. Also easily as good of a bargain as the Maggies. Good Luck