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Phono Preamp Tube Rush

Is there such a thing as a tube phono stage that doesn't have tube rush? Is it just an inherent weakness of that type of pre or is it some combination of cartridge gain and preamp gain? I went from a silent solid state ASR Basis Exclusive to a Herron VTPH-2A (new home with space limitations) and now I'm using a Hagerman Trumpet with my Decca London Super Gold. Both the Herron and Hagerman have tube rush. The Hagerman beats the Herron in my setup and it really sounds incredible but in quiet passages and between songs, there's that hiss at high-medium and high volume. It's just there. No combination of new tubes, new cables, etc changes this fact. Same with the Herron. Anyone having a different experience with a tube phono preamp?
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All tube phono with low output MC is probably impossible to get really low noise.
Low gain tube phono + SUT has been what I've used for the past 8 years. 
Cary PH302 has low 38dB MM stage and I'm currently using with Cinemag 1131 on 26dB (1:20) setting. I'm using vintage NOS tubes. Super quiet and dynamic with the Denon 103R.
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