Perception and Watts: Doubling of power


There's a curious rule of thumb, which to my ears seems mostly true:

  • To double the perceived volume, you must output 10x more power.

10x power = 10 dB by the way.  We've read this as we were buying amps and trying to decide between 100w/channel and 150w/channel.  We are told, repeatedly that 50 W difference isn't really that much.

On more than one occasion I've tested this and found it's pretty much spot on.  Here's my question:

How can any of us really tell what half as loud, or twice as loud is?

I mean, think about this for a bit.  I cannot tell half as bright, or twice as bright, but it seems I actually CAN tell what half as loud is.  How does this even begin to work in the ear/brain mechanism?? 😁

erik_squires

Showing 2 responses by fleschler

In 55 years, I've never blown a tweeter or speaker.  I've used 16 watt Sherwood S7100 receiver to 200/400 watt hybrid Counterpoint amps.  Electrostats and dynamic speakers.   My 35 watt voltage regulated highly modified Dynaco ST70 lacks the watts to really exploit my Legacy Focus 6-12" woofers and provide ultra resolving sound as my 125 watt custom monoblocks but they have the same sound signature.  It takes a lot of watts to increase 3db of sound, especially for low impedance, inefficient speakers.  I match the amp to the speaker and don't worry about loudness (my current listening rooms can go above 110db clean and easily but that's more than I want or need).  

Someone on Audiogon posted about an ASR review of a 10 watt Luxman tube amp by Amir. He used an inefficient speaker to test how it sounded. What a joke. Three ASR posters Ken Tajalli said the Luxman tested as defective and should have been returned/testing was unreliable. Robaroni said the amp is pleasant to listen to DonDish and Robaroni seconded my opinion that Amir should have used an efficient speaker as this is a low power amp which it was made for. So, matching a working condition amp to a speaker is foremost to truly hearing the amp as well as speaker. (Amir said it is ALL in the bench test results-this time of a defective amp-ha ha).