Pass XP30 preamp makes no difference (from dagogo) ? Wow! (active vs passive vs no preamp)


So I am considering a preamp upgrade. Right now have AGD HE9 into my Pass x350.8 and I do wonder if a better preamp would improve the sound further. Was considering a pass pre then came across this. Maybe i should consider just a passive balanced preamp for volume controls? Dac is Denafrips terminator.

https://www.dagogo.com/bricasti-design-model-1-usb-dac-review/
" so I proceeded to my ultimate test: direct comparison between having the Pass Labs XP-30 three-piece pre-amplification system in the equipment chain and taking it out of the chain. In my experience the Pass XP-30 is the most resolving preamp capable of delivering at very low levels – levels where you have to really be attentive to even hear the music in a dead quiet environment. Only when I got below 18dB did I feel like I was noticing a loss of detail, and even then I wasn’t quite sure. Since I never listen at such low volume levels, and I don’t know of anyone else who does, this was not a practical concern for me. Moreover, even at those very low levels I had to really listen to detect any loss in fidelity. Whatever Bricasti did to achieve it, the M1’s digital volume control is excellent. Note also that output gain is adjustable by setscrews from the back panel. "


smodtactical

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@roysq Thanks! Really interesting post. The XP12 even getting close to the ref6 is very impressive indeed! Too bad there was an XP22 for sale locally but I missed the deal. Maybe I'll wait for an XP32 to show up.
I do have an XP30 locally though but guessing the 32 is a big step up ?
@douglas_schroeder thanks for the clarification! That makes a lot of sense. I was shocked when a friend first showed me this and  clearly I misinterpreted it.
@roysq  22 beating the 30 is quite impressive wow.

Did you directly compare 30 to 32 ? I asked desmond what has change but he didn't give me any specifics.

Also I read at least 1 comparison that found XP32 much superior to arc ref 6. Did you compare any of these to any tube linestages ?
Roy only thing is im in Canada. I do have a local guy selling xp30 as I said. Maybe I can wait for xp32 or 22 to show up locally. Or maybe to get one of the US guys to ship.

Ya love Pass sound its awesome. But I am curious about tubes for sure. But if SS can do what tubes do, the tube magic then id love that because then you get the SS reliability.