Pass Labs and Fuses


I continue to enjoy my Pass Labs Int-60 amplifier with my horn based system. My listening area has been intensively treated for acoustic - speaker interaction and it is always a joy for me to listen to a Dialed In system.

For my latest listening experiment I decided to evaluate the sonic differences using three fuses in the Pass amplifier. A brand new Bussman fuse, a Synergistic Research Blue fuse and a Synergistic Research Orange fuse. I keep this amp on 24/7 as suggested by the manufacturer. The Blue fuse has over a 1000 hours on it and the Orange had a 160 hours (continuous playing time) on it before any listening evaluations. The Bussman was listened to for the first time immediately out of the box.

The Bussman fuse did a fine job. But going from the Blue fuse which I had been using to the Bussman, there was a definite change. With the Bussman the sound was now more two dimensional. Instruments were not as full bodied. The depth of the soundstage was compressed front to back. I was more aware that I was listening to a recording versus being in the room with the musicians. The music was less emotionally involving. I did for completeness sake reverse the direction of the new Bussman fuse several times. It did consistently sound better installed in one direction, not huge but it is there.

Comparing the Synergistic Blue Fuse to Orange Fuse was similar to my past tube rolling experiences with my 300B tubed amplifier (but cheaper to carry out). Different tubes change the sound and these different fuses change the sound. Both of these fuses brought out more of the music that the Pass Labs amp was playing when compared to the Bussman fuse. Before any serious listening was undertaken, the fuses were evaluated for best sounding direction - and they both were directional.

The Orange fuse really is exceptional in it’s ability to let me enjoy the music and who is playing what. The detail of Willie Nelson’s nylon strings on his guitar had much better dynamics and richer texture than I have previously heard using the Blue fuse. His Stardust album continues to impress me.

When listening to music that has more musicians playing, such as on Sierra Una Noche, I can more easily distinguish each instrument and it’s contribution to the musical whole. Also in this live recording that uses only two mics, I get a better feel of each musician’s distance from the microphones and that they move toward and away from the microphones while playing. These factors allow me to forget I am listening to a recording of an event. With the Orange fuse, I feel I am at the event as it is playing.

This fuse experiment was fun to do and educational.
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David Pritchard
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The difference one can hear with a fuse depends on the amp and the system it’s part of. With my Marantz Reference PM15S2b, the result in a change of fuse was immediate and distinct. Even directionally. With my Kinki EX-M1, it was much subtler, but still there. In fact, after trying out 3 different fuses with the Kinki, I went back to the standard, ceramic fuse as the amp appeared to be designed with  that fuse being used, which gave the best results.

Even Alvin (the exporter for Kinki) said as much when I asked him about it. I don’t have the email anymore but the one he sent me had the brand and a picture of the fuse and it cost a little over $2.

The fuses I tried were of a mid priced nature (none exceeding $60) so I have no idea how an SR fuse would fare in the same situation.

You’ll never know until you try.

All the best,
Nonoise
Who are you to demand that we bring in a manufacturer to defend it's products? Let me answer that for you: You're no one of any merit to answer to. This is a conversation of like minded folk sharing experiences and not a debate.

Lot's of legit manufacturers don't comment here due to the very presence of people like yourself. There are online reviewers that stay away from places like this and yet, are still deluged with tripe and bile from naysayers who have nothing better to do than harass, apparently for the sheer joy of it.

One even got fed up with the ridiculous onslaught of objectivists who collectively dog piled on him so he closed down his website for peace of mind, and he had some great reviews and intelligent commentary to go with it.

How can you honestly post about something you have no experience in? The totality of your experience is in derailing threads like this that you don't like or approve of. Like the moderator said, stay on the topic the OP initiated, and get some help.

All the best,
Nonoise
So all one has to do is throw in some insults, despite the mods admonitions, and as long as you mention the word "fuse" then you think it's on topic?

Were you ever treated for hoof-in-mouth?

Oh, and fuses, fuses, fuses.

All the best,
Nonoise
Wow, so George is the new sheriff in town? 
Thanks for admitting it.

Like I said, you can dish it out but not take it.
That, and you're now oh so PC, which from what I can tell, is not very
much in vogue around here nowadays.

If there's going to be a purity test to post here, you'll have to abide to the rules as well, and by that measure, lots of your posts should have been deleted for a some time now.

All the best,
Nonoise
They can dish it out but can’t take it.
They can insult and degrade, mock and ridicule.
But, under no reason, is one allowed to reciprocate.

Unless it’s on the same level, then it’s okay.
But if it’s of a better, or dare I say, more adult perspective,
then they run to the mods and cry, whine and pout.

All the best,
Nonoise
Imagine a world with no poverty so everyone can own a pet, no snide remarks about participants in a thread, and where audio is dirt cheap.

Now, back to the real world.

All the best,
Nonoise
It has been shown that some members here are notoriously bereft of anything new to contribute to a debate other than the same old, squawking points.

All the best,
Nonoise
@oregonpapa Frank, I see your Orange Fuse Thread up... and now down, again. Do you know why?
Let me guess.....is the one behind it upside down compared to most?
I wonder what the measured difference would be by just rotating a fuse in it's holder. Two well respected amp builders have heard for themselves a difference in sound from a part of the amplifier that they say has no effect on the sound, just by rotating a fuse in it's holder.

Well, which is it?

Members here, cite these gentlemen as being above reproach and line up behind them in their arguments, other than to claim a form of neurosis on the part of those who hear a difference.

It's been said that the HiFi Tuning reports findings of a difference in directionality aren't enough to justify the difference in sound but what if the differences were in the same, or similar, amounts, to rotating the fuse in it's holder? Better yet, what if the measured differences in directionality are larger than just rotating a fuse? How would the argument go from there?

My bet would be that they'd double down on the insanity claim and still, never try it for themselves. 

All the best,
Nonoise
Yes, there's always that negative to prove. Quite the argument. So many ways to go when the correct way was done some time ago.

All the best,
Nonoise
That's like saying an actual witness to an event has no more credibility than one who hasn't. It's a word game now, and has been for a great while.

All the best,
Nonoise
One thing I've noticed is, there is a lot of opinions on the efficacy of fuses and only those who have tried them hear a difference, save for one or two that I can recall. 

What does that make of the validity of those who haven't tried?

All the best,
Nonoise