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Paradigm Persona series

I'm beginning to poke around and gather opinions and information about a "super speaker" to replace my aging Thiel 2.4s.  I like the idea of bass dsp room correction and I am a bit of a point source type imaging nut (thus the Thiels).  So among other choices I've been looking at the Paradigm Persona series specifically the powered 9H with room correction for the bass.  However I'm skeptical of the "lenses" i.e. pierced metal covers on the midrange and tweeter specifically because of Paradigm's claim that such screens "screen out" "out of phase" musical information.  The technology in the design seems superlative but I just can't get past the claim re out of phase information and the midrange and tweeter covers.  What could possibly be the science behind this claim?  It just seems like its putting a halloween moustache on the mona lisa given the fact that the company is generally a technology driven company.
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david_ten
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@larry5729

It has been difficult for me to find a dealer where you can hear various cables to determine if there is a difference. I am a beginner and need to learn more.

The best way to audition cables is within your own system.

A knowledgeable and experienced dealer can be very helpful in advising you on matching and achieving personal and system outcomes; but, I advise against direct auditioning of cables at the dealer.
david_ten
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you start with the speakers always with the speakers first

...The reason we start with the speaker is because it will determine the electronics,

Amplifier choice forces speaker choice. Speaker choice forces amplifier choice.  Either way is instructive yet limiting. What's the difference? 

(This is generally directed, not at you specifically audiotroy) 
david_ten
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@audiotroy   

We start with the speaker selection first as the speakers are based on room size, output spl required, finish, physical size, asthestic design, of course sound quality.

All of the above remain the same whether starting out amplifier first, or not. 

It doesn't answer the question of why speakers first (over amplification).

Do others have perspective on incontrovertible reasons / rationale on why speakers first (over amplification)?
david_ten
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@audiotroy @kren0006 Thank you for your detailed responses. I appreciate them.

However, I still don’t find (in your posts) convincing rationale that points to and informs the necessity and importance (and criticality) of speaker first over amplification, or any other major component, for that matter.

I understand that the majority of audiophiles fall into (practice) the speaker first camp, but so far (based on the above posts) it seems more about comfort level, familiarity, history and preference rather than specific deal breakers should one choose not to go with a speaker first approach.

Audiotroy’s point on the hassle factor relating to speaker size (unpacking/repacking, movement, positioning, shipping costs, etc.) is certainly a factor, though one focused on convenience (and not a disqualifier).
david_ten
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@prof  What's up with the masochism? Despite the ongoing protestations, is it that you enjoy the self torture? : )

It's abundantly clear these speakers are not for you. The repeated insistence appears more an imposition and declaration of your experience as primary and superior to that of others. 
david_ten
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Wrong. It's his choice.

it's his right

+1 @contuzzi 

The upside is all the renewed exposure for Paradigm. Most thread readers will effectively filter. BTW, Monitor is the brand being harmed.
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