Panny plasma Vs Comcast HDTV, HELP

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You're kidding me right?

Here's some hints:

"My buddy has a Panasonic CRT HDTV with the same box, he uses the HDMI and his TV will broadcast widescreen in widescreen, and his Aspect control WORKS with the SD."

The keyword is HDTV and something your TV is not.

"When watching the source through the COAX input, i am unable to get the HD (as expected). When watching standard definition programming i can use the aspect button to switch from Full, Just, 4:3, and ZOOM"

What is the max resolution of the coax input?...285-325 lines

The TV has an ASPECT button, however, when watching through COMPONENT the ASPECT button DOES NOT WORK. The TV will not go into Zoom, Full, Just, or 4:3 mode.

What resolution is the Component input from the cable box... 1080i? Keep in mind the black bars are generated by the cable box. So to strech an image would require more or less resolution than your TV has?, this goes for DVD too......you're out of dots brother, you only have 480x752.

Cake and eat it= +$1000 for an HDTV plasma not an EDTV

Got to read them directions and replace all the power cords for best results :)

PS: Have no idea why your menu won't pass thru the RF connection. Cable companies can be silly sometimes when it comes to chizzling customers for more money.

This is going to be fun;

1. Ya know, i gotta say something, why does everyone feel the need to point out to me that this is an EDTV and not an HDTV?

Well you didn't seem to understand the difference when it came to screen modes now did ya. You even compared your TV to your roomates tv which is an HDTV!!! Edesilva has the manual and doesn't get it either, you don't have enough resolution to stretch 1080i, 720p and 480p. HDTV plasma's can do this if they have the software on board, ie Pioneer, Samsung....Panasonic.

Uh.

2. Apparently, my roomates CRT panny doesent seem to have this problem, might be beause he is using HDMI and not component....

No master of obtuseness, his tv has the equivalent 1024x1280 resolution, it is a real HDTV. Not compatible like yours.

3.anyways, every single time i see you post on here you seem to have to try and show people up.... you feeling a bit insecure or something?

No I was just making fun of your for not being able to hook up your tv and then 10 guys who were no help either. I gave you the answers I just didn't spoon feed ya, which it appears you needed.

4. On that it was set to pass 1080I on all signals, basically, i set the box to only put out a 480p signal which is all my TV is really capable of doing.

Gee I didn't know that, wonder who the first person was who brought that concept up.

5. I've owned the commercial version of the TH-42PD50U. It is HDTV compatible, meaning fully capable of receiving HD signals in 1080i or 720p. The internal scaler then downconverts to the displays maximum resolution. This isn't so unusual, since most plasmas aren't exactly a 1:1 ratio of pixels to HD resolution--its just that in this set the display loses a little more of the information. The monitor will display a 1080i or 720p signal to the best of its ability.

And does this have anything do with stretching an image or having variable screen modes? No.

6. The problem is that 1080i and 720p are *inherently* widescreen. The manual sez that the aspect button does not work with 1080i or 720p input signals. See p. 21. Its not a matter of running out of pixels.

Then why doesn't it allow it?, because it has too many pixels? I'm not sure slappy understood his cable box was outputting 1080i on SD channels by generating the side bars. Maybe I misread his post?

7. The double boxing problem is an STB issue or a Comcast issue. Try using the S-Video to watch SD/AD (but not HD) off the box; should give you back the aspect/zoom at least. Frankly, some prefer the use of S-Video over component/DVI/HDMI because it tends to "blur" the picture a tiny bit and mask the resolution conversion problems.

Need I say more?

8.Why dont you go ahead and analyze my system and tell me how horrible it is while yer at it? Take yer best shot, with what ive seen you post on here in the past, i hold nothing you say with any credit.

Well, that's not my job and you haven't complained about the general quality of CD playback on your system in an open forum. So it's none of my business really.

9.man. i dig the tv, i dig my stereo. and im happy with them to the point where i now spend a lot of my time and money pursuing other interests.

I never said one thing about your system, never will unless hell freezes over and you ask my advice. I thought it was funny you couldn't operate your tv because you hadn't read the directions but I said that already.

10.You even quoted what i had said, as seen below, and where i said i am unable to get HD on coax and then quite clearly in parenthesis i stated "As expected" then decided to show me up by telling me resolution capabilitys of coax....
as that was ever in question....

"When watching the source through the COAX input, i am unable to get the HD (as expected)."

What is funny is I was trying to point out that changing screen modes has to do with the resolution of your tv and the signal source, which you now know. So was the other guy but you didn't understand we were trying to fill in some background not show you up.

So there we are. I love this place.

You guys are quite a crew,

So none of you understood my posts? That's brilliant, I had two goner's read my posts and they understood. But they have +100 IQ's so maybe it was an unfair sampling.

I did make one mistake I forgot a question mark after Panasonic because Desilva had the manual, I wanted to know. I didn't know if they removed this feature, but on older Panasonics it was there on the 42 HD's.

But if you read my post you'll see that your final explanation is regurgitating back to me what I already told you. But I'm the Moron?
How do you respond to someone who is incapable of understanding what you write.

Clearly I made every attempt to talk as far down to you as I could but I simply need to find an 89 to translate what i'm saying.

As for my friends, let me add I don't have any "stupid" friends. Clearly this is why we don't get along.

"That is where the difference lies, because my buddys TV retains the aspect controls. probably just some type of logic processor or something that can figure it out, or maybe as the HD box sends it out over 1080i it sends a flag to mark it as SD so his tv enables the aspect controls. That is just a guess, i really dont care how his TV lets him watch SD quality over 1080i and allows him to use aspect."

I've explained this to you twice, when are you going to read and have it sink in?

"Either way, the FIX was not in the tv, it was a HIDDEN menu on the COMCAST BOX that you cannot access while the comcast box is turned ON, it can only be access by hitting menu when the box is OFF, and it takes you to a menu that is not otherwise available. All i needed to know was where the hell that freakin menu was hidden, and presto i had it."

Never said the fix was in the TV, you said you wanted your cake an eat it, which was aspect controls with 1080i input. So now you have a 480p input not HD, so I'm still blaming the user as the biggest problem.

"But let me just get this one thing straight, according to you, you cannot stretch/zoom an 1080i signal. So everyone with Comcast digital cable needs to use 2 seperate video inputs? They cannot watch HD then flip to an SD broadcast which is send over a 1080i singal and have aspect controls?"

Never said that, must have been someone else.

"Because guess what? Comcast HDbox ONLY sends 1080i over component if you have 1080I setup, it will NOT send 1080i and later on send 720p or 480p or 480i. it simply sends the highest resolution, which is the resolution you select on the hidden menu, and it will send SD quality over 1080i"

Let me clarify your comments on your cables system that is the case, But that was never in dispute.

"So once again cinematic, you are unable to grasp the concept of the question, you run off some other unrelated concept and pat yourself on the back for being such a smart guy. The entire question was obviously over your head."

Slappy if life was simple you'd be a role model.

Desilva,

Not fair at all I would say: What about this half?

1. "What resolution is the Component input from the cable box... 1080i? Keep in mind the black bars are generated by the cable box. So to strech an (let me add "SD") image would require more or less resolution than your TV has?, this goes for DVD too......you're out of dots brother, you only have 480x752."

Addressing the Cable box, yes?

2. "When watching the source through the COAX input, i am unable to get the HD (as expected,). When watching standard definition programming i can use the aspect button to switch from Full, Just, 4:3, and ZOOM"

What is the max resolution of the coax input?...285-325 lines

More cable box data, no?

3. "Have no idea why your menu won't pass thru the RF connection. Cable companies can be silly sometimes when it comes to chizzling customers for more money".

Call the cable company...cable box issue? yes

3. "On that it was set to pass 1080I on all signals, basically, i set the box to only put out a 480p signal which is all my TV is really capable of doing.

Gee I didn't know that, wonder who the first person was who brought that concept up."

4. "That is where the difference lies, because my buddys TV retains the aspect controls. probably just some type of logic processor or something that can figure it out, or maybe as the HD box sends it out over 1080i it sends a flag to mark it as SD so his tv enables the aspect controls. That is just a guess, i really dont care how his TV lets him watch SD quality over 1080i and allows him to use aspect."

----->I repeat: Keep in mind the black bars are generated by the cable box. So to strech an image would require more or less resolution than your TV has?" Let me add a finer point; for this feature to actually look any good.

The posting in this style has nothing to do with my ego but more to do with my desire to torture Slappy. The fact is YOU also didn't read my posts completely and while I didn't spoon feed slappy the exact answer I showed him exactly where to look and why! My original post did everything but directly answer his question and gave him the information he needed. Slappy and I go back, and he didn't read his manual so it was payback time.

It's really none of your concern. So don't take it personal.