Espresso is definitely the cheaper hobby. A TOTL "home" machine, a LaMarzocco GS3 as an example, is far from cheap and takes up some kitchen counter real estate, but as a daily-use device costs less than an average home 2-channel system. Of course you don’t have to spend that to get a consistently excellent cup, one better than most coffee shops will pour. It just takes a good selection of beans, a good grinder and a machine that heats well and consistently. Some swear by lever machines. I have had one, and it was OK, but I prefer a quiet electric pump and to not mix the brewing water with the steaming water. PID controls are great, but there are very good machines that do just fine without them. For a grinder, I have been using a Mazzer Mini E (Typ 2) for over a decade and it has been excellent. (I had a Mazzer Major for a short while, massive for home use, but total industrial overkill and I sold it.) One of the requirements I have is a water reservoir (no plumb-in, please) and it has to fit on a normal depth counter-top under a normal height kitchen cabinet. I am not interested in a machine that requires a 20A 240V supply or an open area due to device height, so my dream of having a near-vintage Elektra Semiautomatica Murano, a lovely machine I must admit, will have to wait.
OT: Espresso machines
I know this is off topic for the A'gon, but I thought my fellow gear enthusiasts had an opinion. I'm looking for a simple, narrow espresso machine. Reliability is important. I have a Nespresso Vertuo which I really like but lately I've been roasting my own coffee and wanted a more traditional machine.
Opinions?
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I have just entered the world of Nespresso as of last Christmas. Definitely better than K cup crap. Always hated that K cups were plastic and heating anything in plastic is dubious to one's health. Little more expensive, and you need a frother, but all in for 150. Well worth it. Photomax you sure do know a lot about coffee! |
Jura E-4 owner here. One-button gets your beans ground, and a pretty decent shot of espresso. Will also brew pretty much any kind of coffee you'd like. This model does not do milk/foam. No interest in that. I do wish it had a hopper that was removable to make it easier to switch beans. Not cheap, but we are pretty happy, and not too geeky about coffee. Son owns a chain of coffee shops, so we have access to great beans. We go to one of his shops if we want a really good shot of espresso. I ask the guy behind the counter one time why their espresso tastes better than what I make a home, and he said "because my machine cost $30K !" Sounded like something I might have heard on this forum. |
@goodlistening64 - The basics espresso and single cup coffees are good. The flavored, holiday one's are chemical garbage. If you like Jaegermeister though you'd probably enjoy them. |
Erik - Yeah, I got a bunch of those for free. Big fail in creating a palatable chocolate flavor. Vanilla is OK with spoon of sugar. Way too hopeful that the Nespresso could produce a similar Latte Mocha that I can get at the local gas mart. In my case, a Wawa. A coffee step up, but I do fear the rabbit hole. I once thought I could make a good pizza pie and only needed an Ooni to make it happen. If you are challenged by coffee beans it's probably not a good idea to attempt to conquer dough. |
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