Ortofon Per Windfeld Load Impedance?


I'm curious to hear what load impedance other PW owners are using for this cartridge. My manual recommends > 10 kOhms which I suspect is a print error. I notice that the dealer sites are recommending >10 Ohms.
taylor514

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This loading question was a concern until I received an answer from Graham Tricker Tron designer. I have an Allaerts Finish cartridge and Jan recommends exact 845 Ohm load, so I asked Graham to do so with the Tron Seven Tube phonostage. Here his answer: " the Seven you have is set for 117 ohms wich it presents to the cartridge. Don't get hung up on the "loading" issue. It is a much misunderstood subject. Loading is normaly quoted for solid state electronics and can only be set by putting a resister directly across the signal path. This degrades the performance by a huge margin. The Seven is transformer coupled so the loading works completely differently and there is no harmful resistor across the cartridge coils. Jan Allaerts uses a Krell PAM 5 preamp wich is solid state, he has always used SS and there is only one way to load a cartridge with SS phonostages, that is with a resistor.
Loading is basicaly what the designer found worked best in his "test" system, and in his test environment ( listening room ). Loading is NOT calculated or worked out by measurements- it is an arbitrary figure made by listening tests. This changes in individual systems so there is no one correct setting. Also I have found that it is not a good idea to load a cartridge, as it is like putting a lot of weight in a car compared to driving the same car without any weight fitted. As you will know the car performs much better the lighter it is- same sort of thing with loading really.The more you load the cartridge the worse it sounds. Also the Seven is AC loaded so there is no harmful DC component interfering with the fragile cartridge coils so it is allowed to perform at it best without external influence. TW Acustic did some experiments with different loading values on the Seven and found it made no difference at all."
My Allaerts "845" ohm is paired with the "117" ohm Seven and is a great match.
My post was only the exact answer that the designer of my phono preamp gave me because I was curious that the load phono is not matching with the cart. The entire phonopreamp was build with that cartridge in test, and when I hear the result it is quite amazing, dead quiet, detailed, dynamic and I realy don't see how to do better.I am no audio engineer but I am very fussy about s high quality of sound in my system.. Tron is equivalent to Tom Evans in england I heard both and like both. TW Acoustics (Raven TT) use Tron as reference. So I think that Mr Tricker is a respectable engineer and what he says must be taken with consideration.
Even if what he says doesn't match with your audio preconceptions it might be interesting to see why he says that load with tubes is less important than with SS. And why his phonopreamp is sounding so natural. Like music.
Larryi : thank you for your comment. The tron seven designer encouraged me to do tube rolling with this unit. I tryed first NOS Mullards 12AX7 wich improved the sound but a little too lean to my taste. The best results are with NOS Telefunkens 12AX7 in my system. The output buffer 12AU7 is already fit is a NOS GE USA. I will be interested in your week end discoveries. I will also try to put a resistor to achieve the 845 ohms for the A.Finish. Who knows, it can improve even more the sound, but this cartridge/phono couple is made in heaven.
Best regards.
If you don't have Tele ECC803S in hand it is an extremely expensive price for an experiment ! The classic ECC803 are wonderful here. Have fun and happy listening.
Very interesting finds, guys ! What are those speakers your friends own? Not so easy to have Amperex Bugles here but worth the searth. Thanks.