There seems to be some disagreement on what the new Kestral 2 can do in comparison to the Swift which was released last year. I have not heard them because of ML's limited and also misguided system of distribution in Southern Cal. Nevertheless, I have read that the Kestral 2 uses a 6.5 inch woofer over the Swift's 5.5. I assume this can move a bit more air and make the bottom end apparently deeper. Though, the bass "specs" on both speakers are reported as 35Hz. I wonder if the "bass shy" aspect Phasecorrect heard was more amplifier related; that is, many reviews or comments about the new ML speakers have them driven by tube and SET amps. For myself, I would drive them with 200RMS and high current which is the signature of my Aragon 4004MK.I would hope that such power would make a difference in low end performance. I would not want to find after taking these speakers home that they sound like two large AM radios in my livingroom. Another point about this product is that at $1700, it should provide good, clean,and dynamic sound, and I don't mean mid-fi loudness or boomyness either.... There is (I believe) a problem in the audio magazine business, or should I say the audio journalism establishment that it often avoids reviewing speakers under $2000. Case in point, is the Gershman "Cameleon" introduced last year at CES, but so far only reviewed by "Enjoy the Music" This speaker is a two-way 48inch column with good looks; maybe, it is just average, but for $1800, it is got to be better than just average, and "Enjoy the Music" thought as much after the reviewer placed the speakers on a "better" foundation to assist the spikes supplied.... I hope we can get some feedback soon on these products because they are both at a good pricepoint for many budgets, and should with very good electronics possibly outperform speakers costing two or three times as much, which is often "claimed" by many manufacturer without any effort on their part to "showcase" these products for reviewers, or make them readily available to buyers for auditioning