Open Baffle Experience


Much has been said about open baffles, including an epic website by the late, great Dr. Linkwitz but I've only heard them really once, playing absolutely garbage music (thanks Pure Audio!) at a hotel.

I'm talking here about dynamic drivers in single baffles without enclosures, not ESLs or Magneplanar type systems.

I'm curious who has had them, and who kept them or went back to "conventional" boxes?

I'm not really looking to buy speakers, but I did start thinking about this because of a kit over at Madisound made with high quality drivers.

 

 

erik_squires

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Kenjit you should expand your narrow experience before you make unqualified statements.

But, that’s his specialty and sole reason for being.  My guess is he isn’t allowed to leave his padded room enough to get out and actually listen to anything.  Also notice he never discloses what’s in his system.  Hmmm.

 

I just heard Spatial X? at the NYC show in a medium-sized hotel room and they sounded really good with LTA electronics.  Definitely one of the better sounds in the show for me. 

It is important to mention that Audiokinesis and I had a disagreement initially about speaker design but then he started making ad hominem attacks on my character. Its not clear whether his opinion of my character has influenced his opinion about my views on speaker deisgn or vice versa but there is some correlation.  So keep that in mind when reading his responses to my comments as there may be some bias.

This is akin to a butcher having a disagreement with a surgeon about how best to remove a tumor.  Substitute “knowledge” for “character” and you might have something here.  Jeez. 

Oh boy oh boy.  Can’t wait to hear the impending beat down coming to kenjit from someone who actually knows what the hell he’s talking about. Hee hee.

You can't be serious. 99% of high end speaker designs are NOT open baffle they are boxes. They are all on my side. I have already named many of them. B&W, KEF, FOCAL, DYNAUDIO, MAGICO, WILSON

@kenjit So, I’d love to hear you tell Richard Vandersteen, Carl Marchisotto, Jim Winey, Dr. Roger West and Dr. Dale Ream, and Gayle Sanders among others why they’re wrong.  That would indeed be fun.  I’m sure your IQ and experience is superior to these misled speaker manufacturers, so it’d be really fun to hear you correct them and put them in their place.  Troll City.  Population you.  

 

 

 

Let’s see here — on the dipole side we have Nola, Vandersteen, Spatial, Magnepan, Martin Logan, SoundLabs, etc, and on the other side we have…kenjit.  Hmmm.  I for one would love to see kenjit debate the great minds behind all these very successful speaker designs.  That’d be a real hoot.

The best sound I’ve ever heard to date was the Nola Grand Reference open-back dynamic towers driven by top ARC electronics. You can say whatever you want about OB designs, but that sound will live with me forever, and if it’s wrong I don’t wanna be right. Just sayin’. Also, if you pluck an acoustic guitar in open space it seems to me the sound that travels backwards will be at least somewhat out of phase kinda like a dipole driver, and a non-dipole speaker greatly misses or greatly diminishes the backward sound projection that is projected by an actual instrument yet could be captured in a good recording. Could be wrong, but this makes intuitive sense to me.

BTW, I recently heard Spatial Audio speakers for the first time with Linear Tube Audio electronics at the NYC show and thought they were one of the top 3 I heard at the show.  Very impressed. 

Best sound I’ve ever heard, bar none, was the Nola Concert Grand four-tower speakers powered by top ARC electronics and a front end I can’t remember at a NYC audio show. This told me two things — an open-baffle, dynamic driver design is extremely intriguing, and a line array is just superior at conveying the scale and effortless sheer dynamics of a live performance.  Genesis and Pipedreams line arrays impacted me similarly, and I’m forever wrecked until I have a room and budget that can get me there.  Ugh.