well, this is how good audiogon members are. i inquired with totem themselves, thinking i would not get a response, that they would be inpartial, well they came back with many suggestions. they recommended rega,sim,arcam,nain,unison,plinius, i believe you members hit the nail on the head or got plugged in correctly. now it's up to me , you know sound is critical but looks always plays a part. ss. or tubes, although i like tubes and listen to jazz fusion, the tubes,atleast amps, don't do much for me due to lack of attack on bass and i know you tubies will be upset...but i like the attack of s.s. better on bottom end...love tubes on strings,vocals and horns. so it's fun, thinks for all the input and i will post what i got ,if you would like to come back and see. and ill post my listening output. thanks again..dwhitt