On ''what there is''


The question looks ''philosophical'' in the sense of ''what exist?''. In the old terminology ''ontology question''.
The modern formulation (by Quine) is: ''what are the values of your variables''? In our hobby ''what are
the new available components''?  Can one person know what are available components? Obviously not
but we have ''collective knowledge''. Each contribution is welcome. Like in science. But like in science there
are individuals with special contributions. Raul with his MM contributions and his ''successor'' chakster
with his contributions about ''both kinds'': MC's and MM's. Despite his ''modest means''. I think we should
be thankful to have such individuals.
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Philosophy is the love of thought. A philosopher enjoys exercising the intellect. It is fun, but even children’s games have rules. Even children lose patience and get upset when you try and break the rules. Don’t say deed for did, they are two completely different things.

A deed is an act. Deed is present tense. Did is past tense. The deed is done. He did it.

Grammar is the way we structure our language. Since we have no way of communicating what we think other than with words it is essential we follow the rules of grammar. Otherwise, if we don’t follow the rules we risk writing gibberish no one can even begin to understand.
How many ’’issues’’ can’t be expressed with such
poor base with only 3 words grammar ?

See what I mean?
Yeah and the first time I heard that that is is I thought that was clever too.      


Anyway yeah, I am thankful we have Raul and chakster. We now return you to the thread with the most entertainingly misleading title ever.
There is no such thing as ’’rationality’’ to find
in human history.

Pythagoras. Galileo. Newton. The guy with the frizzy hair.

holmz-
Well I made it a minute in (almost) and it was seeming to be a religious talk.

That's because a) you only made it a minute in and b) it turned out to be one of the many Watts videos where they cut up and pieced together different talks. I just listened to the first few seconds, it started off the talk I thought it was, only later realized it was all chopped up. There are elements of religion but it is equal parts science and philosophy.  

The Cliff Notes version is there are two great Myths or ways we view the world- the Ceramic Model, and the Fully Automatic.  

The Ceramic Model is the religious one, in which everything is just mere stuff, clay in the Bible, into which God breathes life. But really it is all just dead lifeless stuff. And so in the Ceramic Model we human beings are all fundamentally different and apart from everything else. Animals to a lesser extent as well.  

The Fully Automatic Model is the one we think of as scientific and in this one everything is just lifeless dead particles just like clay only we dispense with God and say the mind and soul are nothing more than artifacts of all these billiard balls bouncing around.   

There's a lot more, like I said this is the Cliff Notes version. Expanding on each model it becomes increasingly clear just how much they each are missing. It does take a while though. Watts is good, but even he cannot convey the nature of reality in less than a minute.    

https://youtu.be/UPcs3B1omx8?t=27
Only thing obvious to me is you didn’t click the link. If you had you would see the title of the video is, "What There Is" and the first thing Alan Watts says is, "I’m going to talk about what there is." Which coincidentally is the title of your discussion, On "what there is".

Oh well. So much for, "Each contribution is welcome."