Old SS amps


What are people's experiences with old SS amps. And I'm talking old like close to 20 years. I guess this can be called vintage(though to me it's yesterday.)

 

Either you bought it new and have had it that long or you bought it used.

Is buying it used a really bad idea even though it was owned by one person with no service issues? Like an old Pass.

I hear something about capacitators needing to be replaced. Should it be avoided like the plague? Am very interested in one but don't want to be stuck with a cat in a sack.

Thanks for any thoughts.

roxy1927

Hi Roxy.  I have a 30yo Denon PMA-520 that used to sound great.  I am the original owner, bought it from the original Magnolia HiFi in Seattle back in 1995.  It has sat in climate-controlled storage for the last 18 years or so, unused.  I fired it up a couple of months ago, let it sit for a few days before running a signal through it, then played it and it sounded quite wooly.  I suspect I need to have it re-capped before I pass it on to my daughter.

I don't know if it makes a difference if a device has been used regularly over many years or if it has sat unused for many years.  My gut tells me that sitting unused has more of a detrimental effect on capacitors.  Others more knowledgeable than me might be able to shed some light on that question.

@ronmen 

As stated above, gear stored for many years should not be plugged into the wall. It needs to be visually inspected and if everything looks ok then it needs to be plugged into a variac and brought up to line voltage progressively over a period of 12 to 24 hours. That lets capacitors reform.

@devinplombier

Hey Devin.  So, I visually inspected it first - no leakage or obvious signs of trouble.  The question is, since I have already plugged it in and tried it, is it too late now to go back and put it on a variac as you suggested.  It was probably 4 months ago that I fired it up after about 18 years in storage.

Question two: If you had two amplifiers of equal age, let's say 30 years old, one had been used almost daily for those 30 years and one had sat for 20 years unused, would one be more likely than the other to need a re-cap?

@ronmen 

The idea of the variac is to let dried-out caps reform progressively and spare them the full blast of inrush current while in a compromised state. So going back on the variac at this point is unlikely to make a difference.

Re question 2... a lot happens to electronics in 20 years, both actively used and stored. So... it depends.

That said, I think the compulsive hand-wringing over capacitors (while glossing over everything else) that seems to afflict many in the audiophile community is misguided. A number of potential issues with vintage gear are more important than caps.

 

@devinplombier

Does that mean you do not have an opinion on the specific question?  Also, what would you consider the more important issues?  'Just to be clear, I'm not trying to be antagonistic.  Please don't interpret my questions that way.  I'm just trying to learn. Thanks.