Ohm FRS-15 v. Ohm Walsh 2


2 questions... (1) Ohm Walsh 2 is pure single driver whereas the FRS speakers are... what? Additional tweeter? Then NOT 360? FRS-15s and 2s are similar in price. Which one? (2) Speakers are for 14'x24' room w 8' celing but 14' side is open to 14'x12' kitchen. Want to put Ohms at this mid-line (step-up) to fill den and kitchen. Nuts? My logic says nice creative solution, but somehow it might not work... comments? I listen to progressive rock, jazz, electronic, etc. but like clean sound that's a bit warm and punchy but not bright.
marcus13

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Sorry to hear that.

I run my 100s which are also upgrades to original Walsh 2s off a 60 w/ch Bel Canto c5i imtegrated. 60’watts gets them to a decent volume but not concert level like my other amps with my bigger Ohm Walsh (500 w/ch Bel Canto ref1000m). Its a class d amp which tends to soft clip. Its very possible your amp is clipping also if you are playing very loud. That could explain it but I have had Ohm Walsh now for almost 40 years and have never had any issues even with modest power amps at pretty high volumes.

FRS speakers were part of OHMs line I believe back in the late 80's and early 90's. I believe they use the same CLS drivers as OHMs Walsh branded speakers, like the Walsh 2, 4, 5, etc., and can be upgraded similarly to newer OHM CLS drivers like the series 3 as well in most cases.

I think the main difference is in the cabinet design and construction which would mainly affect the low end the way the OHM CLS Walsh drivers are mounted on top of the cabinets.

I've never actually seen or heard any of the FRS line, but did consider buying a pair for upgrade or trade-in back when I was in that process. They often come in at lower prices on Ebay compared to similar sized OHM "Walsh" branded models.

All the OHM Walsh and FRS speaks are designed to be listened to optimally from in front of the speaker.

If they face towards one room, they will still fill the room to the rear and work to a fair extent, however, the volume heard will be somewhat lower overall and in particular the treble level heard will be lower.

You might be able to order modified drivers from OHM for a more balanced 360 degree sound if desired and install those to FRs speakers. The 360 sound would be accomplished by mounting the tweeter to be upward rather than frontwards facing and by eliminating or re-disributing acoustic dampening material inside the cage that attentuate the SPL in the 3 normal wall facing directions. OHM uses a design like this for some of their surround sound Walsh speakers, I believe. You'd have to talk to John Strohbeen to find out what could be done and for what cost.
Texas42,

I have F5 S3s (5S3 drivers in F cabinets) and Walsh 2S3. I owned original Walsh 2's prior for about 25 years.

In smaller rooms, I have found there is little or no advantage of larger OHMs over smaller. In larger rooms, larger OHMs have benefit without doubt but mostly all in the low end. Mids/highs are near identical. Of course, 5 drivers have many adjustments possible for fine tuning the sound.

I owned the original Walsh 2s and newer S3s concurrently for a while and had a chance to compare. They are much different sounding. I did not know what to make of the s3 drivers at first, but ended up preferring them once my ears adjusted.

Original Walsh 2s are very good also and big time overachievers for the cost, particularly when opened up to realistic SPLs in larger rooms and especially outdoors where they will really fool you into thinking its live and not Memorex!
Well, if they are in good operating order, you won't find anything else I can think of for $350 that can even come close to doing what those will even with older Walsh CLS drivers out of the gate.

ALso, local pickup is good insurance because the larger Walsh speaks can be difficult to ship reliably in one piece without detaching the drivers and shipping each speak in 3 boxes (1 each for cabinet, driver and grill).

The FRs 15s upgrade to 200 drivers,which are larger than the 100 drivers used in 2's. For your room, and configuration, that could be beneficial.

SOunds like the stars are aligning pretty well for these with you!
Marcus,

The larger drivers in the FRS 15s and taller cabinet compared to Walsh 2 should provide more "meat on the bones" and have more impact in the low end in a larger area like yours and bass extension beyond the Walsh 2s down into the 30hz range according to the ohm site specs.

The taller cabinets might make a difference in the height your ears must listen from for best results.

With a well matched amp, the Walsh drivers tend to sound most balanced and detailed when you listen from a vertical position in front of or somewhat above the can as a result of the shape and orientation of the Walsh driver inside .

The tonal balance can change and sound less bright and detailed if listening from a lower position than the drivers, I have found.

FRS series are less common than Walsh series I believe in that they were produced during the period when OHM was shifting away from the audio store distributor business model they used to have going into the 90's and to their current buy direct model.

I think I read somewhere the shift from pyramidal WAlsh series cabinets to more recent more rectangular cabinets was to help keep production costs in line.

PErsonally, I like the look of the older pyramid shaped cabinets but the newer cabinets appear to have a smaller footprint which may be of benefit to some.