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Oh how I wish Class D amps ...

I sure wish manufacturers and designers would move forward as quickly as is possible on improving the current status of Class D amps ... I have heard them all, some in my own system, and they have SO mcu promise !!! Unfortunately they just do not have it down yet. They still sound dry, unmusical, and strange in the treble ... kind of chalky and rolled off, and definitely lacking air.
I long for the day I can get rid of my hundred pound Class AB monster amp, for a nice small cool running amp that sounds just as good. I am worried though that designers and manufacturers have accepted the " It sounds good enough" opinion, and that the B&O Ice power may be a long time before it is "fixed"... sigh.
Just my rant ...
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audiofeil
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Keep in mind that audiofreakgeek is a Nuforce dealer and his comments must be taken in that context.

A dealer disclosure is essential when discussing products in which there is financial interest.
audiofeil
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>>02-20-11: Muralman1
None but one solid state preamp will do their best with class D.<<

That is so lame.

How would you know that only one solid state preamp will work best for everyone?

That is true only for you and you alone.

There are many more experienced and knowledgable listeners/manufacturers/audio engineers/retailers outside of the muralworld.

You need to get out more.

LOL
audiofeil
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Wait a minute muralguy.

Let's go back to the "None but one solid state preamp will do their best with class D" assertion.

That statement implies you've evaluated all of them personally with your ho 2 ho amps. Now any rationale and clear thinking person knows you couldn't have done this. So why not be a bit more conciliatory and admit there is more than one preamp suitable for Class D amps. In fact, I've used a number of them (dealer disclaimer) with great results.

You like your system. Great. However, your combination is not universal. If so, more audiophiles would do what you're doing. In fact you seem to be on an island.
audiofeil
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>>02-22-11: Muralman1
One true statement weaves it's way through these comments. Class D amps only sound as good as you make them sound<<

I hope you didn't stay up all night working on that.
audiofeil
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Muralguy, so far you have not responded succinctly to the questions asked of who i.e. the impedance concerns (atmasphere's comments) and the ridiculous "none but one solid state preamp will do their best with class D" statement. I know for a fact there are quite a few.

How about addressing specific issues instead of the lightweight "one issue weaves true......." crap.

Thanks
audiofeil
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Sure I can.

But components are system dependent and what is "best" in one system is just "good" in another. This is audio 101 but that's ok, you missed that class.

If there was one universal "best" for class d amps, everybody would be using what's in your system.

I can assure you from speaking to customers with systems far more sophisticated than yours, that is not the case.

Now about that impedance information atmasphere asked for........
audiofeil
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I like Macrojack.

He's a stand up guy.

Speaks his mind and has refreshing opinions.
audiofeil
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>>Ag waits your intelluctual response<<

Well, that's really nice of you first of all.

I'd have to hear his components in his room to make a recommendation.

Make sense to you?
Thanks for your thoughts.
I know you speak for the entire ag readership.
Or think you do.
audiofeil
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>>02-24-11: Muralman1
the truth of the matter is, you can't make any worthwhile recommendation on my system unheard.<<

Agree, I already posted words to that very effect.

>>Perchance you hear my system I suggest you would not have the temerity to challenge any component comprising my system<<

Of course I would.

No system is beyond improvement.

Thank you.
audiofeil
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Audiofeil,
You denounced his system without hearing it, funny how the cookie crumbles for those with an agenda.<<

I did not denounce his system. This was my post:

"I can assure you from speaking to customers with systems far more sophisticated than yours"

That is simply a true statement. Perhaps you're dyslexic.

Agenda? Absolutely not. I've not mentioned nor discussed a single product in which I have a financial interest. Please see my dyslexia comment again.

If you are able.
audiofeil
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Oh yeah.
I'm out.
Bye.
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