@dspringham i might have found the issue.
it either doesn’t like my preamp or my subs connected to speaker terminals.
I went straight from DAC to amp, controlling volume with my Innuos. And turned my REL subs off (they are connected directly to my speakers post along with speaker cables). I never had issues like this with my tube preamp and tube amps.
gonna test with subs turned on next. Then test back to preamp with no subs. That should test all possibilities and tell me what the Nuforce likes/doesn’t like