Not manufactured any more.


I'm looking at old Pics of speakers that I would love to see come back. 

I'll post two or three. What do you like? Post your DIY or that speaker that got away..

Enjoy the Holidays

oldhvymec

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A few of the less seen versions pictured here, and a home project version a few years back. Where the Dr. Von Heil Air Motion Transformer (AMT) all started from here in Sacramento California. Fun thread, great memories digging these up. :)

ESS AMT1A (early model)

ESS AMT3 Rock Monitor

ESS AMT6 Professional Series

ESS AMT Monitors (late model) 80s

 

ESS Transar ATD

ESS Transar ATD

 

DEC-AMT28 my own custom version in 2018

Polk Audio SDA SRS Signature Reference System 

I will never forget the first time I heard these.  

[@cycles2] @decooney Thanks for all the pics of the ESS speakers. I never realized they made so many models. I used to own the AMT-1B’s which I believe was basically an AMT-1A but added a rear facing 12" passive radiator. A friend of mine also owned a pair and had the ESS 500 watt amp. Talk about a revolutionary sound in the late ’70’s.

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@cycle2, You bet. We are all products of the environment we grew up in as they say. :) I worked at ESS in the early 80s on the assembly lines. Like you, I had the same AMT Monitors and AMT 1B speakers as you had. They were one of the speakers to have at the time, including those ESS 500 amps. Super cool, glad to hear it. Later i discovered more improvements with really good SS and TUBE amps! All the sudden the AMTs really started to sound wonderful. A re-discovery!

For three decades, I felt the big AMTs with 12" woofers and passives were slightly off, with a commonly discussed "hole" in the midrange yet to be mastered. Then came the i.e. AMT3 Rock Monitors (with midrange) came out, even closer to what was needed compared to what you and I had before. Hence my DEC-AMT28s I finally designed and built. They blow away any prior ESS factory unit I had before.

I’ve had some discussion with Nelson about my speakers. His teams also had some updated versions of his own speakers too, super cool to see what came out later by others, over the years. While I did my updated version, so did Pass Labs later on. Check these babies out, Pass Labs Rushmore. Modern day AMT3s, and better. Big $.

 

 

How many of you remember walking into a regular hi-fi audio store regularly seeing Altec 19s sitting there. These always captured my eye for some reason.  

A fun and enjoyable thread for sure!  :)

Or less commonly seen pair of Kef-105s form the same era.

Retro Simple Style:  some of the older plain looking vintage Magnepan SMG type speakers were really cool too.  

 

A lot was going on down in the bay areas while we had our oddity speaker builders and companies designing and building different stuff up here in NorCal. All disappeared now. This thread is such a blast through the past, thanks for that oldhvymec.  Thoroughly enjoyed remembering, finding, posting odd speaker pics! 

@mijostyn ..."I have no desire to resurrect the past. The present is so much better."

One can learn from the past to observe, refine, redesign, restyle and optimize. Many cool designs you see today with speakers are spawned and resurrected from great ideas of the past with new materials and updated engineering to some degree. However, even for musical speakers, technology has not changed all that much. Other areas of audio electronics have progressed much more than speakers past 50 years, actually.  This is definitely not a thread about digital zeros and ones. 

DSP Bluetooth speaker threads can be found elsewhere, LOL. 🤣

 

 

@jdoris "...Gallo series. Could sound very good indeed, and at very reasonable price point, esp. by the standards of today’s hobby.

I briefly had a pair of 3.5s or 3.6s, but could not get them to sing with the 30wpc amp I was running. I expect they wanted a bit of juice.

 

Interesting. I heard a pair of those floorstander Gallo 3s in a smaller room powered by a 100w EL34 stereo tube amplifier with some decent iron transformers behind it. The sound of that middle "CDT3 (Cylindrical Diaphragm Transducer)" component in that MTM type design was pretty neat. Like a circular flat ribbon of sorts. Smooth sound, quite surprising. My friend missed out on buying a used pair and kinda regrets it. A unique looking and sounding speaker in a small floorstander. I wonder if a pair of those new Strada 2 separate units with a REL sub would sound close.

 

 

 

 

To [@oldhvymech], Interesting. Not sure where this photo came from, I went to a PAP listening session years back and heard these same units. It was an evaluator rep here in NorCal, he had the same hard floors and drapes to the side :) The speakers were overly sensitive for my ears paired with what I felt were the wrong amplifiers for the speakers. Some lower power mono tube amps with good tubes, would have been better for demos imo. It gave some ideas at least.  

I too wondered what happened with their production, frames, was sorta looking to test the AMT version, and did not get the chance. Was a clever idea with modular sections. You’ve probably seen these too, this is what I was looking over, great heil at center.

 

 

@audioguy85 The Jensen System 400 and 500....value for money and fantastic sound. 

Indeed...and a few pics of the Jensen System 500..., and hey what's that rear firing thing-ma-bob tweet on the top back side? 😆

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone remember the unique wood SS-M speakers Sony made for a while. SS-M3, M7, M9?. Sounded pretty nice as I recall. I preferred the mid level model SS-M7 3-way quite a bit. Higher quality appeal to them in person when they came out.

 

 

 

 

@oldhvymech "BUT I found these I don’t know if they are duped on this thread or not.."

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oldhvymech, ahhh,  Sansui SP-5500 speakers. Fairly rare, more info here.

https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/sansui/sp-5500.shtml

4-way, 8ohms, 98db, pretty unique. Full specs here:

 

Specifications:

Type: 4 way, 6 driver loudspeaker system

Frequency Response: 40Hz to 20kHz

Power Handling: 120W

Crossover Frequency: 700, 1000, 6500Hz

Impedance: 8Ω

Sensitivity: 98dB

Bass: 1 x 380mm cone

Midbass: 2 x 125mm cones

Midrange: 1 x horn

Tweeter: 2 x horn

Finish: open pore walnut

Dimensions: 532 x 850 x 430mm

Weight: 46.2kg

 

 

 

Not sure about desirability, or sound, some other odd and unique speakers from the past of Pioneer too. Made in Japan.  Pioneer CS-T7300

 

 

 

 

For the "AR" fans here. These AR90s were fairly unique. There were some larger ones I recall that I cannot locate yet. Looking...

 

 

 

 

 

[@oldhvymech] decooney, I wonder what those Bohemoths weigh? Mercy I like um!! I know they sounded good, probably still do. :-)

re: AR MGC-1, old article specs show they weigh 150lbs each...heavy!

re: Snell B, shows two active 10" woofers on the spec per speaker. One 10" on  front and there is one more [rear-firing] woofer plus another alloy Vifa tweeter on the rear of the speaker too...,pic below of rear of Snell B. Fwiw, I’ve used those exact same Vifa small 5-6" woofers and same Vifa aluminum tweeter in a custom MTM configuration I did years ago. IMO, It still needed other woofers and/or sub to fill in the bottom end a bit more.

Snell B, rear: