No bass with new turntable?


 Hello, I've just set up a Pro-ject Carbon DC Esprit, dialed in the arm etc., and while the upper spectrum of the sound is great, there is just no bass, let's say below the 80-100hz range. It's been probably 30 years since I've fooled around with turntables so I can't remember if that's just the way it's supposed to be. Luckily I have a Velodyne SMS-1 bass management system to turn up what I'm missing, but without that I'd be completely disappointed. Using a CDP my speakers are very full of bass. I've played with the tone arm adjustments with no difference in bass really, all supplied cables hooked up and checked, the cart is an Ortofon Red, the phono preamp is integrated in the Rogue Audio Sphinx amp.
 Any suggestions/opinions?
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Well, 
I see that the problem may be more like in cartridge more than anything else.
No alignment or VTA can drastically diminish bass, but proper VTF is required to be in specified range per cartridge.

The cartridge either 
1. not wired properly
2. replaceable stylus not mounted tight
3. cartridge/stylus is defected since new

if the cartridge/needle not new

4. cartridge is clogged and needs cleaning with stylus removed(if applicable)
5. stylus is worn and needs re-tip or replacement
Most original pressings of classic rock on recycled vinyl from the early 70's wouldn't sound good on a 100K TT and the finest cartridge/phone stage.
I tend to agree. 60's jazz and classical records have great bass especially UK releases.
Price tag might be part of problem that often manufacturers are negligent to the quality of assembly and set-up.
Simple solution money back or fix the way it should sound as documented and confirmed.

As I figured and many did, "listen for ...hours" would not help the main issue. 
The low price tag perhaps made manufacturer(or dealer) be negligent to details and quality of assembly and setup.
If you have tiny pliers something like in Leatherman pocket tool I'd carefully remove all cartridge clips and crimp them slightly more to make sure that they provide nice and tight connection to the cartridge pins. Be super careful not to rip them off the headshell and always use pliers when taking off and fitting back on. I'd also check carefully alignment and properly set-up VTF with tools to check and fix manufacturer or dealer negligent setup. If you go to turntablebasics.com, you'll be able to find basic tools to properly align cartridge and tracking weight. With new wires I'd work on research first. I don't know any market for outboard interconnects with thin gauge for turntable. Basically you'd want the same thickness of wires as going out from your arm on the interconnects. You'd also want minimal per-unit capacitance of wire, because for the MM cartridge it's crucial and not so for MC. For your reference, find out the electrical parameters of the stock interconnects you're using from manufacturer.
 Years back they used to be available in conventional electronic stores with ground wire attached, now I've seen some on internet (needledoctor) at price tag 4x higher than your whole analogue setup. If you don't want to tense your wallet and save a lot without loosing performance of your system, I use http://www.gepco.com/products/proav_cable/analog_audio/singdual_xband_F.htm. This cable is easy to fit safely onto the RCA jacks and provides low-to-no noise signal transfer with great dynamics. I'm sure that it will outperform your stock interconnects if properly terminated. For best results use http://www.parts-express.com/neutrik-nf2c-b-2-profi-professional-rca-plug-pair--092-114 Neutrik Pro-Fi connectors that are very easy to terminate and lockable.
It's good idea to do a solid run from arm to rca jacks.
There are many options available. Buzz may be from loose cartridge clips. I also suspect assembly quality to the RCA recepticles.